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[SOLVED] Help with instrumentation amplifier

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Hello, clueless newbie here

I'm trying to assemble a simple instrumentation amplifier for a school project and frankly i could use some help. Im using a simple 3 op-amp schematic (in the picture 1) with a following resistor configuration R1=R2=R3=22k, Rgain = 10k . According to my calculations this should yield a gain of 5.4.

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For testing the circuit i hooked 1k and 10k resistors in series to a 9V battery and measured V1 from before the 1k resistor and V2 after the 1k resistor. Again acording to my calculations the the differential voltage should be Vd=0.82 and thus the output of my instr.amp should be 4.4 V. When i first tested the circuit i kept getting 0.6V as output. I also discovered that i could change voltages V1 and V2 and output would still remain in 0.6 V !. I reassembled the circuit many times just making sure i hadnt made a mistake, problem didnt go away. Next i thought i might have a bad batch of op.amps and i swapped the LM385N for a more sexy TLC27L2CP. Now the output voltage switched from 0.6 to 0.01 but still not the correct value. Why wont my amplfier do what its supposed to? :'(

One more thing! I also disconnected the first two amps and the resistors R1s, Rgain. I then proceeded to test the differential amplifier part alone and apparently that works as expected.

I realize that without seeing how i actually wired this thing on my breadboard its hard to say where i screwed up. Im just hoping for some general pointers. I'm also worried there is something fundamentally flawed in my testing setup (like i'm not 100% sure you can even measure a differential DC voltage with a instrumentation amplifier, please verify this :p).

Thanks in advance.
 

Your differential amplifier needs a dual-polarity supply. Because the 3rd opamp will have a negative output voltage if one input is positive. It cannot have a negative output without having a negative supply. So the output is saturated at 0V in your circuit.

Or you could bias one input at half the supply voltage (+4.5V) then when the other input is at +0.41V above 4.5V the output will be 2.2V lower than the 4.5V. If the other input is 0.41V lower than 4.5V then the output will be 2.2V higher than the 4.5V.
 

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