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What's the best way to route the over OVD1 back to the primary side of a transformer?

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Hi,

I was wondering what is the best way to route the over voltage detection line (OVD1) back to the primary side of the transformer?

Ziggy
 

High Voltage Track

I think your secondary is isolated u can use
opto isolator with its biasing from rectified output.
 

Re: High Voltage Track

I was thinking of routing the track instead of adding an extra component. Is it possible to route the OVD track in the second layer under the high voltage track on the first layer?
 

Re: High Voltage Track

Depends on the thickness of the dielectric - I believe that at least 3 plys of pre-preg are required - see EN60950

SiGiNT
 

Re: High Voltage Track

Hi,

Refer some standards,like Ul 61010,UL 840,UL 508,which are been used extensively to achieve creepage and clearance for high voltages(Ac/dc) and its very useful to sell the product in the global market.

Also check this site out,for IEC standards

http://creepage.com/



Regards

Ramesh
 

Re: High Voltage Track

If you have enough distance between layers of PCB (e.g. acc to IEC 60950) it is possible. However, the best and ensured way is to use an optocoupler.

Regards
 

Hi,

I was wondering what is the best way to route the over voltage detection line (OVD1) back to the primary side of the transformer?

Ziggy

Normally primary side regulation with a common transformer for low cost but good cross-load regulation is done instead of separate T's. but if secondary OVP needs isolation , opto or tertiary windings are used for Control System and sensing OVP direct.
 

Some of the above information is not quite correct...
Inner layers are insulated creep age and clearance distances from IEC 60950 etc above do not apply.....FR4 is an extremely good insulator, inner layers of PCBs are the same as insulated wires, they are insulated, look at IPC-2221, section 6.3.
 

Opto feedback is cheap, but if you clamp secondary, then primary side current sense can work also.

Consider solutions for OCP, OVP and OTP all on primary side as alternative.
 

Re: High Voltage Track

I was thinking of routing the track instead of adding an extra component. Is it possible to route the OVD track in the second layer under the high voltage track on the first layer?

Yes, if people look at your schematic they will see the primary and secondary sides are not isolated, but share a common ground and +12V so YES just run the track on an inner layer.
 

Re: High Voltage Track

Yes, if people look at your schematic they will see the primary and secondary sides are not isolated, but share a common ground and +12V so YES just run the track on an inner layer.

Perhaps common ground symbol was a mistake
 

And the common +12V, I tend to read what is there and if it is not a blatant obvious mistake I don't presume. As stated in post #3 he wants to run a track, now without more information we can only presume, so I answered the questions directly.

Again it is interesting to see how wide the misunderstanding is regarding inner layers and creepage and clearance distances, I see all sorts of views from engineers from half the quoted distances to full quoted differences to everything in between to some that even get the distance correct for inner layers.
 

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