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vijaytanjore

Joined: 17 May 2004
Posts: 32
Location: India

04 Dec 2004 9:42 unix on windows machine

Hello friend

i have one doubt
whether it is possible to load unix in windows environment
without unix server

whether we have any utilitiy to work unix in windows environment

vijay

echo47

Joined: 07 Apr 2002
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04 Dec 2004 10:29 unix on windows machine

Check out coLinux. I use it to run Debian Linux in a window under Win2k. X apps work (although slowly) via VNC.
http://www.colinux.org/

MaxSU

Joined: 09 Sep 2004
Posts: 8
Location: Russia

08 Dec 2004 11:47 Re: unix on windows machine

try to search 'vmware', 'virtual machine' in the google-search or something else

cetc1525

Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Posts: 177
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08 Dec 2004 14:13 unix on windows machine

use a vitual PC software can run in windows.

enogogo

Joined: 07 Jun 2004
Posts: 112
Helped: 1

08 Dec 2004 15:19 unix on windows machine

www.knoppix.org/ a cd bootable linux

superyanlm

Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 12

09 Dec 2004 3:33 unix on windows machine

You can use exceed or x-win

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oxford

Joined: 30 Apr 2004
Posts: 52

23 Dec 2004 2:46 Re: unix on windows machine

Use Vmware you can install unix in virtual environment.

eltonjohn

Joined: 22 Feb 2002
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23 Dec 2004 2:59 Re: unix on windows machine

You COULD USE CYGWIN or UWIN from ATT and is exactly THAT UNIX FOR WINDOWS ,it can be downloaded here:
http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/uwin/

andy2000a

Joined: 18 Jul 2001
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23 Dec 2004 8:26 unix on windows machine

virtualPC only for windows OS on X86 ..

vmware is better tool , I ever use winXP + vmware (RH8)

and I find hspice in vmware Linux about 70% speed
than host win32 hspice

EcraZ

Joined: 17 May 2001
Posts: 325

23 Dec 2004 10:25 unix on windows machine

I want to know one thing. Using a virtual machine we can run an operating system. but how does one install some software on it or save the file made in an emulated environment ? people who have worked on emulated environments kindly share your experiences on these.

thanks

ArchAngel

Joined: 01 Jul 2004
Posts: 49
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23 Dec 2004 12:08 Re: unix on windows machine

EcraZ wrote:

build up a ftp server in windows, u can transfer files from virtual machine to ur server, u should set different IP for ur virtual machine ofcouse.

echo47

Joined: 07 Apr 2002
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23 Dec 2004 12:28 Re: unix on windows machine

EcraZ wrote:

coLinux+Debian has full network access, so http, ftp, etc all work, including the Debian package download/install mechanism.

Also, I "mounted" one of my Windows shared folders into /mnt. Now both OS's have easy access to a common directory.

PONDERBOY

Joined: 04 Jan 2004
Posts: 48

23 Dec 2004 17:57 Re: unix on windows machine

VM is fine fir install solaris on pc under windows.

treebear

Joined: 06 Aug 2001
Posts: 134

24 Dec 2004 6:01 Re: unix on windows machine

Hello,

I think it is not a good idea to run Unix on Windows. You know that Windows is not stable. And UNix, however, is a more stable platform. Running Unix on Windows will lost the biggest benefit of Unix.

treebear

spweda

Joined: 28 Jun 2001
Posts: 195
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26 Dec 2004 4:02 Re: unix on windows machine

You could install Unix application in the VM environmen. The file you generate in the VM is not accessble to the Windows directly. I am not sure whether it is possible to acees the file through the samba. However, you could put the file into a network driver and let Windwos to access the network driver.

mostafa_elwakeel

Joined: 30 May 2004
Posts: 36
Helped: 2
Location: egypt

26 Dec 2004 23:03 Re: unix on windows machine

hi
if u don't already know you can have both systems installed on ur PC, with the help of a bootloader, an attitude i recommend for you...

however you could use CYGWIN from redhat, which emulates fast enough, well the fastest windows permits, but it sacrifices some features, generally you should't use in apps related to security

there's aslo line it's still new, and VMware which emulates the whole PC it functions fairly well but consumes resources of course, and there are MINGW and MSYS of gnu but little tedious to install, and many of which parts are included in CYGWIN
www.cygwin.com
www.mingw.org
http://freshmeat.net/projects/line/
www.vmware.com

hamadeh

Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Posts: 98
Helped: 10
Location: Lebanon

27 Dec 2004 1:13 unix on windows machine

Hi
if you want to use Unix like Os on your PC, and to use windows os at the same time then you can either install a "virtual machine" on windows as the guys suggested (like vmware or virtual PC), or you can "dual boot" both windows and linux (or Unix).

Some Linux distributions had a bootable ability, I mean that you can startup ur PC with them without installing the OS (like knoppix and damn small linux ), you need just to put the cd on ur drive and restart your machine to get your PC working using Linux os.

Also what is better is to install the both OSs (windows and Linux) in your PC, its very simple to do this, just go and do some search on google to get the full details about this issue

cetc1525

Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Posts: 177
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29 Dec 2004 13:02 unix on windows machine

virtue pc need more memory.I think run it separately.

nicleo

Joined: 06 Sep 2004
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09 Mar 2005 8:47 unix on windows machine

My system has 1GB memory. Do you think it's enough to run MS Virtual PC?

Thanks.

quacklamack

Joined: 07 Dec 2001
Posts: 28

09 Mar 2005 18:01 Re: unix on windows machine

Due to Windows defaults, CoLinux can only be full networked (or networked at all) if ethernet is active on Windows (ie, connected). If not, you can not see even your own Windows from Linux, nor Linux from Windows.

CoLinux has has a practical limit of 82Mb RAM, due to Windows faults. Apart that, it is an excellent product to run servers like Apache (RAM is an obstacle here if you load it too much).

Quack

Added after 2 minutes:

A word of warning about Virtual PC. Beware! It is a Micro**soft product. Isn't M*S fighting Linux? So why in the world should it allow Linux to run on their OS with their virtual machine, if not to show, by failing, well, that Linux is unstable, etc?

quack

ryang

Joined: 07 Feb 2005
Posts: 52

11 Mar 2005 9:15 Re: unix on windows machine

EcraZ wrote:

Use the "Share Folder" feature provided with Vmware or Virtual PC. By using it, you can share a common folder between master OS and Guest OS. Thus, two OS can access the same file.

Kaleem

Joined: 07 Feb 2005
Posts: 43
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11 Mar 2005 18:14 Re: unix on windows machine

You may use any of the various ways to have multiple OS's on one system.

1. Using VMware
A good option as VMware exists both for Linux and Windows.
You can directly browse the web in VMware if your system is connected to the web using bridged/NAT networking.
You can share the files with the host OS using
a. share folders (needs installtion of VMware tools)
b. an FTP server running either on the host of the guest (virtual) OS.
c. you amy also use your physcial driver for guest OS (not recommended)
The bad thing is that it would require a lot of system resources for running the guest OS relatively smoothly. Even then the speed of the applications in the guest OS is relatively slow.

2. Using Cygwin
Not as generic a solution as VMware. Although it is light and fast. The basic purpose of cygwin is to be able to run xNIX applications in windows environement.

3. BootManager to chose amond multiple OS's at boot-time
The best one if you don't require to use the two OS's simultaneously. One OS when running can normally acces the drives of the other OS.

4.
VirtualPC is just another tool like VMware.

nicleo

Joined: 06 Sep 2004
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12 Mar 2005 1:04 unix on windows machine

Say we're using 'BootManager' to choose either one of the following OSes: WinXP and Linux. When we log into Linux, do you think we can access the files created in WinXP system? Thanks.

lovebug

Joined: 12 Mar 2005
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Location: india

14 Mar 2005 7:56 Re: unix on windows machine

i think if u use virtual pc that is available on

www.danlod.com

or www.download.com
then that is more preferable then boot manager
bye

mitrobge

Joined: 19 Feb 2005
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Location: GREECE

19 Mar 2005 21:03 Re: unix on windows machine

Reflection X is a good emulator for xterms

cygnet

Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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07 Apr 2005 3:18 unix on windows machine

use a vitual PC software can run in windows.
or You can use exceed or x-win.

raj_rohit10

Joined: 14 Jul 2004
Posts: 113
Helped: 1

07 Apr 2005 5:51 Re: unix on windows machine

you can use winlinux too it is easly installable on windows..

jvargas

Joined: 17 Apr 2004
Posts: 14

09 Apr 2005 5:24 Re: unix on windows machine

nicleo wrote:

Say we're using 'BootManager' to choose either one of the following OSes: WinXP and Linux. When we log into Linux, do you think we can access the files created in WinXP system? Thanks.

Of course you can acces the files that created in WinXP, the problem is the kind of partition type you have, I mean if you have NTFS partition ( the common case), you can read the files, but u can't write in that partition (WinXP could crash), but if u have a FAT partition there won't be any problem.

So I recommend to make a partition common to both OS (i mean FAT32 for example)