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orikfa
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 01 Nov 2004 13:40 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Can somebody say more about Austria and Switzerland salaries?
thx
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nerd77
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| 01 Nov 2004 14:02 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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at least some approximately statement:
A collegue of me with same profession, same working area, same skill level, same experience etc. asks his swiss customer (were he is working) about salaries in Switzerland. They offer him also about 80K EUR + overtime premium (seem to be some magical barrier which could not be broken if you do not work in magement or sale)
As reported, taxes and insurance in Switzerand should be lower than in germany.
I have no information about the requested skill area of the original poster (EDA related work) of Swizerland
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Colbhaidh
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| 01 Nov 2004 14:20 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Consider Scotland. I recall Wolfson microelectronics stating they could not find any good analogue IC designers.
Check out :
h**p://www.talentscotland.co.uk.
For an experienced designer, you would be earning between £38K -58K.
I would love to agree with the go do it yo8urself philosophy but it is just too exensive. A single design run (multichip project where you share the mask costs) for 0.18um is about 20K USD. Assuming your design worked 1st time, you then have the cost of assemblig the devices and then perfoming a device qualification.
Before long you have spent over 100K USD - and you still have to sell it !
PS China are getting into IC design in a big way.
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orikfa
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| 02 Nov 2004 13:17 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| nerd77 wrote: |
at least some approximately statement:
A collegue of me with same profession, same working area, same skill level, same experience etc. asks his swiss customer (were he is working) about salaries in Switzerland. They offer him also about 80K EUR + overtime premium (seem to be some magical barrier which could not be broken if you do not work in magement or sale)
As reported, taxes and insurance in Switzerand should be lower than in germany.
I have no information about the requested skill area of the original poster (EDA related work) of Swizerland |
I have a B.S. in electronics engineering with telecomunications specialization ( with more knowledge in RF and MW ). For sure I like electronics, especially RF, but I'm also very interested in management. Do you know the Swiss job market trends in management and electronics? Where to find good websites on which apply for such jobs in Switzerland? I'm not Swiss, so is the German language knowledge mandatory? I know english and italian almost fluently.
many thanks for your effort
best wishes
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Puppet1
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| 04 Nov 2004 20:40 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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what is the job market like in germany...
where are the RFIC and MMIC designers in Europe ? Germany and France ?
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nerd77
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| 05 Nov 2004 12:41 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| I'm not Swiss, so is the German language knowledge mandatory |
I would expect that (independend which country someone chooses) some rough knowledge of the national language is neccesary.
Swiss German is some independend idiom. If someone from Swizerland speaks very acurate, then someone from germany or Austria might understand him. If not - no chance.
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cwjcwjcwj
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| 09 Nov 2004 18:39 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| In malaysia,is about 400Euro......for fresh grad
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Puppet1
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| 17 Nov 2004 5:13 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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What is the hiring situation in Europe (or anywhere in the world where you are).
Anyone hiring ?
Or is the WHOLE world economy bad ...
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IR
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| 24 Dec 2004 17:38 Salaries in Europe |
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Hello people,
I am a good example to someone who has dedictaed the last 5 years of my life for job seeking abroad, and I am talking about worldwide search from NZ to US.
My first advice is don't go to NZ: These damned kiwis treat people like crap! There is no moral in this --- forsaken country. I had a signed working contract with Tait Electronics from New Zealand 2 years ago, and these villains (I wish them to burn in hell) violated it in a criminal manner.
Companies abroad treat foreign applicants - like me and you in a pathetic poor wa: Patronize over them, ignore them etc. I have a lot of examples from my experience for that.
Nevertheless, If you want to work abroad you need to get that magic little thing called work permit. Something which is very hard to get. I really don't know why - maybe because it cost some money for the companies to get it, and involves some bureaucracy. In Europe, the company has to prove that they haven't found a suitable employee for the position throughout the continent in order to bring a foreign employee. This is understandable and OK as they want to make sure that their people have job at first priority. Well that doesn't work for us.
Anyway, good luck to all of you in your job quest.
- IR
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Zorg
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| 14 Jan 2005 15:05 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Hi,
I wanna know how good or bad a gross salary of 3850 Euros/Month is in Germany for a fresh engineer? I'm relocating there from India and that is what I would get paid there by my company.
After reading the posts, I feel that taxes are very high in Germany (50% !!!). Here I would pay no tax this financial year and 20% afterwards.
thanks
Z
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ep20k
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| 14 Jan 2005 17:25 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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How many month you'll get paid a year? 12 or 13?
Regards, ep20k.
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Zorg
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| 15 Jan 2005 9:55 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| There are only 12 months in an year. What is this 13 months thing? One thing is that I would continue to get my Indian salary as well which is about 21000 US$/annum at PPP.
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ep20k
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| 15 Jan 2005 11:17 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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In Germany (also some other European countries) is (was nowadays) it common to get the '13th monthly salary'. It includes money to go for vacation and to buy gifts for x-mas.
But if you also get 21000 US$/annum extra take the job.
Regards, ep20k.
PS: What's the job about?
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zkai2000
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| 15 Jan 2005 16:15 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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I'm looking for a job in UK..issit possible for me to get one as I'm from Malaysia. Can anyone has any contact for employers who actually wanna hire foreign employees? I'm an Electrical & Electronics degree fresh graduate.
Thanks!!!
Regards
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keks
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| 19 Jan 2005 0:36 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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hi every1,
i have just graduated as engineer and i am looking for a job since. The salary for beginners is about 30-35 k€ as i have expierienced.
I am always astonished about comparisons between different countries. Romanian engineers are supposed to get 300€/month, but how is this calculated? It seems to me that u can afford nearly the same things with 300€ in romania as someone in germany with 3000€/month.
In denmark u are paid for studying? I think you have to pay back this money? In Germany you can get your studying financed by the state as well, but u have to pay back the money when u work.
regards
keks
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Puppet1
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| 19 Jan 2005 2:09 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| keks where are you living ?
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rellutzu
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| 19 Jan 2005 13:23 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Man, man, man...
I'm a young graduate from Romania. I think that says much. I work as a development engineer in the field of electronics. I get around 250 Euros in hand. And I work at a big german company that come here.
The problem is that the germans moved many of it's development centers in Hungary first and now in Romania, because of the smaller salaries.
It is very difficult to convince them to pay you a bigger salary. Here there is a serious offer of high qualified workforce and the company has the posibility to chooose from.
I hope that joining the E.U. will change things for us. Or we shall emigrate. You cannot do much with 250 E.
Best regards.
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Puppet1
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| 19 Jan 2005 18:38 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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joining the EU for Hungary has meant people shipping development there and also people because the salaries are cheaper and also the product will be cheaper.
globalization and the EU means using weaker countries to do the cheap labor jobs while the richer countries get higher salaries.
hope it doesn't stay like that..
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| 19 Jan 2005 22:15 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| Romania indeed has lower salaries. I know that because I have friends who are engineers that live there. The problem with Romania is that only few foreign companies, like Siemens (where Relletzu is working) opened there offices and that's it. There is a high quality workforce in Romania but no chances to gain experience because the high-tech industry in this country almost doesn't exist. Furthermore (and that's the sad part) Romania doesn't allow to foreign employees to work there, there is an intolerable bureaucracy and corruption that keeps companies from coming. I know that because I tried to get a work permit for a company in Romania (Even if the salary there is lower than the salary in my homeland) and yes I am sane. This company deals with a field that I want to gain experience in, and I prefer to earn a lower salary and gain this valuable experience. Yet the company is unable to get a work permit for me! And they will have to spend a lot of time to train a Romanian engineer, instead of bringing someone from abroad that will get dive the work very quickly and will be able to train other employees in the company. Romania simply cuts the opportunities for development of the high-tech industry, that is a big shame!!!
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DonJ
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| 20 Jan 2005 0:17 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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The salary is always related to where you live. The best place to work wrt. payment is the US. 
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Puppet1
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| 20 Jan 2005 0:48 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| DonJ do you live in USA ?
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Puppet1
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| 20 Jan 2005 19:09 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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What are German salaries like ?
Does it vary by city/region ?
say munich?
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Zorg
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| 22 Jan 2005 11:38 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Hi,
I'd also like to know about the city wise status in Germany. The 3850Euros/m I talked about are in Hamburg. What kinda city is it? Expensive or moderate?
Thanks
Z
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jesterday
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| 06 Feb 2005 18:46 Salaries in Europe |
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| The base salary at Infineon for Munich is EU4275/month for a graduate engineer with an MS degree.
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eternal_nan
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| 06 Feb 2005 20:29 Salaries in Europe |
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Are the numbers that you guys are quoting before
or after income taxes. If before, can you please
give the number after taxes are paid.
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Puppet1
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| 06 Feb 2005 22:30 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| i assume all reported salaries are before tax, that is what they quote you !
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| 06 Feb 2005 23:40 Salaries in Europe |
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| Those salaries are quite low for german cost of living if they are pre-tax...
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DanTheMan
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| 07 Feb 2005 1:39 Salaries in Europe |
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guys all salaries are pre-tax unless noted...taxes differ from country to country...
Best to live in -- US, low(er) taxes although damn basta*ds they get you for social security, medicare, and other crap...
Worst to live in -- I don't know, nordic countries? Low salaries, flat 50% tax, high costs for everything!!!
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mishi
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| 17 Feb 2005 14:26 Salaries in Europe |
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| hi... if someone get a scholarship of 975 euro/month, is it very low fr Brlin?
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DanTheMan
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| 17 Feb 2005 14:59 Salaries in Europe |
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no, it's ok...if you can get student housing, it will run about 300 euro/month, and there's no tuition so it will be ok.
If no student housing then apartments are upwards to 1K/month
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