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omara007
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10 Aug 2008 13:26 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| I don't know other countries but in Germany EE beginners earn about 35k€ - 45k€ p.a. depending on company and qualification. |
which part of Germany ? .. is this considered good salary compared to the standard of living ?
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iraqi2006
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 27 Location: Iraq
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27 Aug 2008 19:11 Salaries in Europe |
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Its really an exciting subject to read more about Jobs and the Salaries compared to Middle East Ranges !
Regards
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salma ali bakr
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28 Aug 2008 9:28 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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But there shouldn't be any comparisons between salaries in the EU and the Middle East. Expenses are totally different, not to mention also the life style!
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omara007
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28 Aug 2008 11:37 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| salma ali bakr wrote: |
But there shouldn't be any comparisons between salaries in the EU and the Middle East. Expenses are totally different, not to mention also the life style!  |
Some parts of the middle east are quite costly as per living expenses .. Qatar & UAE come at the beginning of the list .. Kuwait is also expensive .. Jordan as well .. and definitely they are compared with Europe from this prospective ..
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salma ali bakr
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28 Aug 2008 12:07 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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frankly, the gulf countries didn't come into my mind when i was thinking about the middle east...i was concentrating more on egypt, jordan, lebanon, syria, iraq, libya sudan...etc...where the average employee earns nothing! ( taking into account the soaring prices)
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omara007
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 1147 Helped: 35 Location: Dubai
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28 Aug 2008 14:45 Salaries in Europe |
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| Excluding Jordan, I believe you are correct .. if we are talking about the R&D sector .. but if we consider the telecom. or services, I believe ME is almost the same as EU & USA.
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charkyriak
Joined: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 8
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11 Sep 2008 16:21 Salaries in Europe |
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Hello,
Does anyone know what is the demand in the States this period for junior IC designers with 1-2 years of experience???
What about the salaries...after taxes...
Thanks
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Shaf
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 8
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21 Sep 2008 6:12 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| Right now,unfortunately the situation is not all that cool for the junior designers . People with 5+ yers of solid design and test experience are in demand. And the bar is going up every passing day.
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omara007
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 1147 Helped: 35 Location: Dubai
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21 Sep 2008 8:27 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| Shaf wrote: |
| Right now,unfortunately the situation is not all that cool for the junior designers . People with 5+ yers of solid design and test experience are in demand. And the bar is going up every passing day. |
In which countries ?
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n38
Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 10 Location: Tunisia
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23 Sep 2008 13:12 Salaries in Europe |
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what is salary in Belgium for digital engineer, design for test with 5 year
who know imec, this company does’ it give good salary and what kind of benefit it offer
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Shaf
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 8
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24 Sep 2008 16:32 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| omara007 wrote: |
| Shaf wrote: |
| Right now,unfortunately the situation is not all that cool for the junior designers . People with 5+ yers of solid design and test experience are in demand. And the bar is going up every passing day. |
In which countries ? |
The United States of America.
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salma ali bakr
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29 Sep 2008 12:10 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| n38 wrote: |
what is salary in Belgium for digital engineer, design for test with 5 year
who know imec, this company does’ it give good salary and what kind of benefit it offer |
IMEC's salaries are a bit lower, compared to companies in Belgium. They also don't provide cars for employees (except for top management ). But the work environment is very challenging, the people are so friendly and helpful, and the diversity in the nationalities of employees and researchers gives a special welcoming atmosphere that isn't always found elsewhere
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omara007
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 1147 Helped: 35 Location: Dubai
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19 Oct 2008 2:48 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| Shaf wrote: |
| omara007 wrote: |
| Shaf wrote: |
| Right now,unfortunately the situation is not all that cool for the junior designers . People with 5+ yers of solid design and test experience are in demand. And the bar is going up every passing day. |
In which countries ? |
The United States of America. |
I don't think this is correct. The H1 quotas directly goes for those who are already inside USA. I guess this might change if the democrats replace the republicans in the administration. I do remember the days of Clinton. At that time, everybody used to easily get a good job in USA without a need to worry about VISA quotas.
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Shaf
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 8
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22 Oct 2008 9:55 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| omara007 wrote: |
| Shaf wrote: |
| omara007 wrote: |
| Shaf wrote: |
| Right now,unfortunately the situation is not all that cool for the junior designers . People with 5+ yers of solid design and test experience are in demand. And the bar is going up every passing day. |
In which countries ? |
The United States of America. |
I don't think this is correct. The H1 quotas directly goes for those who are already inside USA. I guess this might change if the democrats replace the republicans in the administration. I do remember the days of Clinton. At that time, everybody used to easily get a good job in USA without a need to worry about VISA quotas. |
We were talking about the job opportunities and not the H1s etc.
Cheers
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Nasser750gx
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29 Oct 2008 21:13 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Don't count on europe for engineering, please....
The system here in europe is socialist, which means, wealth is normalized, which means.... Dont even think about it, UNLESS : Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Monaco,
Ireland (Not very positive about ireland, but its good). NEVER come for engineering
to France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, Hungary, UK. The tax here is 50%, and the
income is half of USA, CANAD, Switzerland, Australia.... and so on.
Take my advice, I have experience
Good luck
Nasser
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omara007
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 1147 Helped: 35 Location: Dubai
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30 Oct 2008 4:06 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| Nasser750gx wrote: |
Don't count on europe for engineering, please....
The system here in europe is socialist, which means, wealth is normalized, which means.... Dont even think about it, UNLESS : Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Monaco,
Ireland (Not very positive about ireland, but its good). NEVER come for engineering
to France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, Hungary, UK. The tax here is 50%, and the
income is half of USA, CANAD, Switzerland, Australia.... and so on.
Take my advice, I have experience
Good luck
Nasser |
What's so good about Switzerland and Monaco in terms of vacancies and income ?
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Nasser750gx
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30 Oct 2008 11:51 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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These countries are rich, Income above 90,000 CHF (Swiss Franc, nearly dollar in value). Taxation can be under 10% (Very high income can go as high as 25%).
Generally cheaper to live than other places in europe, and very stable countries,
very high standards of living.
Good Luck
Nasser
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salma ali bakr
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30 Oct 2008 14:23 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| Swiss is NOT cheap at ALLLLLLLLL...!!
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Shaf
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30 Oct 2008 21:23 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| salma ali bakr wrote: |
| Swiss is NOT cheap at ALLLLLLLLL...!! |
I would second salma on that. Switz is damn expensive place. Depends a bit on canton
regarding taxes etc ...but hell you have to pay extra even for the garbage that you throw out!
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omara007
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30 Oct 2008 22:14 Salaries in Europe |
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I know that Swiss is known being a costly country .. but anyhow .. this depends on the equation .. if people are happily living in good aparts. .. driving fancy cars .. and saving some money .. then it's not expensive to them .. but expensive to non-residents ..
So, what is the percentage of residential rent to the income ? .. this is one of the figures that give a good sign to the standard of living ..
Usually, in the US you may end up paying one-third of ur salary for rent ..
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n1cm0c
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03 Nov 2008 12:34 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Switzerland is an expensive country, but the salaries are high and taxes are lower than most other european countries. Like US, but european, civilized, with health insurance coverage, school for all, free/cheap university.
Very clean, organized place. You pay for everything, including to have your garbage picked up, but so what ? It costs money everywhere!
The *big* cost in CH is housing! Buying is out of question if you don't want to spend 30 years paying for the bank loan. Rent is expensive, unless you live far or in small place.
Zuerich is so expensive that many people drive cars a long way from out of the city.
VAT is low on electronics, cars, so once rent/housing is paid, fill it with all consumer junk you can imagine.
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omara007
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03 Nov 2008 14:38 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| n1cm0c wrote: |
Switzerland is an expensive country, but the salaries are high and taxes are lower than most other european countries. Like US, but european, civilized, with health insurance coverage, school for all, free/cheap university.
Very clean, organized place. You pay for everything, including to have your garbage picked up, but so what ? It costs money everywhere!
The *big* cost in CH is housing! Buying is out of question if you don't want to spend 30 years paying for the bank loan. Rent is expensive, unless you live far or in small place.
Zuerich is so expensive that many people drive cars a long way from out of the city.
VAT is low on electronics, cars, so once rent/housing is paid, fill it with all consumer junk you can imagine. |
That's all good .. but here is the 1-million dollar question: How about the Opportunities/Vacancies in Swis ?
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ashish_chauhan
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04 Nov 2008 6:45 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| Its a close circuit ... and in the times of slow down the opportunities are miniscule , rather zero as every one has been hit and those who have not been are being cautious.
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