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| If you come from other countries like Pakistan, I'm not sure it's very easy to come to study in Denmark. |
hello ME, being a Pakistani, may i ask you any justification for this please.
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tavakoli
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| 31 Jan 2006 1:46 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Hi
I think after these various answers something is lacking here.
No data have been submitted for counties such as Switzerland, Netherland or Belgium. As far as I know these countries, themselves, have a great academic background in Analog and RF (EPFL and ETHZ in Switzerland, TUDelft in Netherland and KULeuven in Belgium) so they must have the relevant industry as well.
Furthermore what about the cost of living and living tips in these countries?
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showtime
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| 02 Apr 2006 0:30 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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I got my master degree in 2005. And now I am in Netherlands.
So far, in china, a fresh master from top 10 universities can get 800-1100USD/m in IC design. 5-year experienced designers can get 1.5k-3kUSD/m. Tax rate is around 15%. This happens in Beijing, Shanghai or Shenzheng. A two-bedroom apartment in these cities is around 120-300USD/m which depends on the location.
Fresh bachelor gains less, around 300-500USD/m.
West of China is far less than east, normally 30-50% less in IC industry.
| alpacinoliu wrote: |
China
Engineering&Management 30000-50000 Euro/year
Top Engineers: 30000-40000 Euro/year
Skilled engineers 20000-30000Euro/year
Average Engineer 10000-20000 Euro/year
Beginners 5000-10000 Euro/year |
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Puppet1
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| 10 Apr 2006 23:33 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| Does Infineon pay better than average ?
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| 20 Apr 2006 20:25 Salaries in Europe |
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pepillo
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| 21 Apr 2006 19:34 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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I have heared that Infineon pays well even for recent grads, although you must take into acount the higher cost of living there.
Added after 1 minutes:
Is 12000 sterling pounds "pa" (I suppose this is per year) a good salary for an engineer in England?
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Puppet1
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| 24 Apr 2006 16:52 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| What city or cities in Europe has/have the highest cost of living ?
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Thinkie
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| 15 May 2006 10:02 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| pepillo wrote: |
Is 12000 sterling pounds "pa" (I suppose this is per year) a good salary for an engineer in England? |
12.000 GBP p.a. (per annum) is a good student scholarship but a very bad salary in UK
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salma ali bakr
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| 16 May 2006 10:10 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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has anyone heard of the IGP (international graduates program) in infineon
is it good enough???
did anyone join it from here
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eldo
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| 29 May 2006 11:21 Salaries in Europe |
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Belgium, analog IC design, fresh PhD: 3500-4000Euro/month
You get half after tax!
Living cost: 300-600Euro for 2 bedroom appartment depending on location. Food is not expensive.
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buenos
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| 30 May 2006 16:47 Salaries in Europe |
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I live in Hungary.
Earlier I thought that in west europe we can earn 5x as here (average MSC EE in Hungary: 1500$).
As I read these pages, the situation at us, seems quite not bad. for example italians earn fewer?... But development engineers are few here, because here are much more manufacturing companies, who require manufacturing process engineers.
I try to get get a job as a HW development engineer these months, after I graduate.
A two room flat is a minimum of 300$ in Budapest, but in the country, it is less (there are the factories).
TAX: the employer pays circa 30%. the net remains. we should pay 40% TAX, and we can go to buy things, then we have to pay 20% more than the values of the things, as more TAX.
I usually eat for 5-6$/day.
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nagacnu
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| 03 Jun 2006 20:10 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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hi
i am in europe since 2004 genarally people here wont diffensiate technical or a laber work (like taxi driver) they will respect and treat both as same now i was in sweden here a masters graduate will get (25000SEKs) = 3000 euros per month and even local bus driver also will get the same amount so as technical u can expect not more than that. it is always around 2500 to 3500 euros per month not more then that and you have to pay 33% tax so you r getting very less pay campared to USA and even here cost of living is very high
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buenos
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| 04 Jun 2006 13:13 Salaries in Europe |
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Do anyone know about exact TAX rates int the different countries? I think it is at least important as the salaries.
What about the USA, england, and belgium?
Iwrote about the Hungarian, but not too correctly.
A new (TAXes, pansion affix, health... ):
- The employer should pay 26%
- Employee should pay: 18% until 7750$/year, and 36% for the remaining above part.
- 4%+8%=12% for the pansion/health... + 22$/year
- when you buy things, the TAX is 20% for food... but 130% for the petrol for your car.
So, if an employer pays 100% for one employee, then you can spend 37% of the total money what you have worked for.
Has anyone any info about that in the USA?
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pic1702
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| 06 Jun 2006 7:41 Salaries in Europe |
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For a job in France: THALES RAYTHEON SYSTEMS employs people from United States and UK.
If you try spain the best way is to start your company instead of being employed. Salaries are 2000€/month in Spain.
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goshahar
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| 06 Jun 2006 10:07 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Hi all,
I dont think you ment Israel when you asked for slaries in Europe but if you do then:
An avarege Electronic design engineer salary is 3000-4000 USD/m depending on company you work for.
Apartments in israel cost 300-600 USD/m 2-4 rooms depending on the location.
Food is very cheap
Good luck
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akgurung
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| 08 Jun 2006 15:25 Salaries in Europe |
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| Let me tell about the situation in my country Nepal. Three years ago, after doing BE I taught in a college for one year. I had around 150US$/month. And that's fine for local living cost(at Kathmandu). Few of my classmates who did programming(mostly web-based, outsourcing projects) got around 300US$/month, which was and still is a huge amount in our country. However unless you work in foreign-funded companies or do outsourced programming projects, BE graduates get below 200US$/month. Graduates who do electronics/rf usually go to foreign countries for jobs, or do programming/teaching.
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buenos
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| 15 Jun 2006 14:07 Salaries in Europe |
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hi.
I got an offer: 2500EURO/m gross in Belgium. I am a fresh graduated MSC. The task is: design embedded hardware/sw, mostly analog+ 16bit microcontrollers.
Is it bad, or good?
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secured
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| 17 Jun 2006 21:01 Salaries in Europe |
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hay guyz.. I know this is off topic.. but already some fellows here talked abt cost of living in USA n Israel n ...
does any1 has an idea abt salaries n taxes in arab countries.. especially cities like Dubai.. i heared that they hav high salaries...
and btw.. the salaries in Lebanon start from arnd $ 800 I guess (a $1000 is good to live..but not enough to own a house in a reasonable time).. but this is if u "find" a job as an engineer... ITs and CS graduates r more wanted here cuze of low income... every year.. 100s of engineers graduate here (hight rate btw).. most of em travel outside to find jobs..
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charmrus
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| 02 Jul 2006 23:03 Salaries in Europe |
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I was offered 75000 euros for rf engineer in buchurest.
93,000 after 6 months
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mr_chip
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| 04 Jul 2006 2:23 Salaries in Europe |
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| Anyone knows about the salary levels for analog/RF IC designer in Austria & France?
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ds18s20
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| 06 Jul 2006 0:22 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| Puppet1 wrote: |
Hello
I want to get an idea of what salaries are like in Europe for an Analog IC/RFIC Design Engineer.
Let's say 5 years experience.
And in Euros.
Countries include those such as UK, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy.
Can someone give me a range in Euros ?
Hungary (and the rest of Eastern Europe - they seem to be the one hiring in Eastern Europe) are of most interest. Just for comparison, what are the new grad salaries too ... |
OMG you guys serious? 5 years of experience and what one would assume, a grad school degree, in the silicon valley will ring your door bell (at the time you change jobs of course - no one will promote you that high in the same company) with $120,000 per year - that is one hundred and twenty thousand per year before taxes.
Sure then you need to subtract taxes, car and house payment etc, etc so what you really get as 'real' money is far less (real meaning the money you get to spend on woman, booze, the good stuff etc)
So using a cool calculator, here what your 120,000 salary will look like on a bi-weekly cycle. Yep you only get $2,870.44 every 2 weeks. Pretty lame huh!!!!
Bi-weekly Gross Pay
$4,615.38
Federal Withholding
$1,018.83
Social Security
$286.15
Medicare
$66.92
California
$336.12
CA SDI
$36.92
Net Pay
$2,870.44
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Tahar
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| 08 Jul 2006 19:45 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| buenos wrote: |
hi.
I got an offer: 2500EURO/m gross in Belgium. I am a fresh graduated MSC. The task is: design embedded hardware/sw, mostly analog+ 16bit microcontrollers.
Is it bad, or good? |
It is not a so good offer, u should expect something like 2150 euros /month NET
Assuming that you have 30% taxes, then your salary should be very close
to 3000EURO/m gross rather than 2500EURO/m gross.
But I am sure this company knows it, that why you see some kind of 'round' difference' of 500 euros.
500 euros gained per employer, that's interesting of course...
Best Regards,
Tahar.
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lestin
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| 09 Jul 2006 23:03 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Hi Tahar,
can you give me a rough idea based on my case?
BSEE, digital IC design for around 4 years, then go for my MSc
recently seeking a job in belgium
Thanks in Advance:)
Lestin
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dinone
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| 11 Jul 2006 15:00 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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The situation in Italy is very drammatic
the salary for an engineer is about 1300 Euro/month with an experience of about 3/4 years. There are very little electronic company, but the strange is that there are a lot of clever electrical engineer that are not "utilized".
VERY VERY STRANGE
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dmivs
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| 11 Jul 2006 19:24 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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Latvia, electronics engineer
Newspapers: ~1000 Euro/month for graduate
Real: ~600-700 Euro/month for engineer with 3-10 years experience
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felix29
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| 28 Jul 2006 16:24 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| charmrus wrote: |
I was offered 75000 euros for rf engineer in buchurest.
93,000 after 6 months
Totally absurd, your figures are unbelievable and about 8 times too high,
unless you are a genius and have your own company, sorry all my researches do not comply wlith your statements. Perhaps you talk about local currency and not Euros....?
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| 30 Jul 2006 23:59 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| goshahar wrote: |
Hi all,
I dont think you ment Israel when you asked for slaries in Europe but if you do then:
An avarege Electronic design engineer salary is 3000-4000 USD/m depending on company you work for.
Apartments in israel cost 300-600 USD/m 2-4 rooms depending on the location.
Food is very cheap
Good luck |
goshahar,
Are you living in Israel? It seems salaries threre are much higher than most Western European countries. how easy is it getting a job in Israel ?
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pepillo
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| 01 Aug 2006 19:15 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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An engineer in UK told me this:
A fresh grad entering a job in electronics in UK can expect 22000 pounds/year (33000 euros). And I think you are tax free below 30K pounds/year.
Can anybody confirm this? Is it too high or too low? It is a good deal if you are really tax free.
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lchaniot
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| 04 Aug 2006 9:17 Re: Salaries in Europe |
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| dinone wrote: |
The situation in Italy is very drammatic
the salary for an engineer is about 1300 Euro/month with an experience of about 3/4 years. There are very little electronic company, but the strange is that there are a lot of clever electrical engineer that are not "utilized".
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The same situation (maybe a bit worse) is in Greece. Typical salaries for new graduates in electronics engineering are around 1000 euros/month gross (that kind of salary is tax free). If you have a PhD and 2-3 years of experience you can get maybe 1300 euros/month gross, but don't bet on it.
The problem is that there are no jobs for hardware engineers, most companies are not hiring, or they are hiring with very low wages. Wages have actually dropped during the past 5 years.
The cost of living is very high in Athens, you need about 400-500 euros/month for rent, to that you need to add about 200 euros bills (electricity, water, telephone and common expenses for the appartment block you live in). You also need to subtract about 15-20% of the gross salary per month for social security. Rent and bills are not tax deductible so you get taxed for paying rent. If you prepare your own food you can expect to spend another 200 euros per month, higher if you eat in restaurants. In the smaller cities it can be up to 50% cheaper, but unemployment in the country is rampant, also cities with big universities (like Thessalonika or Patra) have a shortage of available houses because of the high student population - rents there can also be higher than Athens.
Sales oriented jobs can get you more money, but income is not guaranteed (sales bonuses only apply if you achieve your targets) and once taxes start to kick in you will see the increase in salary dwindle.
An engineer with 1000 euros gross monthly salary can expect to get around 850 euros per month net (after subtracting social security), which just about cover the cost of a frugal living. Basic wages are about 600 euros/month and don't ask me how these people (a full 40% of the country work force) manage to make a living, I honestly don't know.
Social security covers heavy ailments or accidents, but offers very little coverage for common accidents or ailments, such as having a tooth filling or glasses. A common doctor examination costs from 60-100 euros, social security covers about 10% of that. So don't fall sick.
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Thinkie
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| 04 Aug 2006 11:40 Salaries in Europe |
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Ιchaniot,
The situation in Greece is quite bad for engineers.....
The problem is that there is so much untapped potential in this country, lots of talented engineers willing to work for low-paid work....
Greece also has a lot of ex-pats, people who live in US or UK/Germany and are
willing to return to Greece on the right opportunity.
yet the companies here are constant underachievers...
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