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krespomx
Joined: 20 May 2001
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Hi! Some one know someting about design or build a electro shock for rats, i need some information, to build one device!
thx!
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echo47
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| 09 Sep 2004 7:44 rat electro shock.... |
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| Do you want to train them or kill them?
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krespomx
Joined: 20 May 2001
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| 24 Sep 2004 21:34 Re: rat electro shock.... |
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i need it for training, i need build one, for research use!
just for train!
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pisoiu
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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| 24 Sep 2004 21:46 Re: rat electro shock.... |
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I saw a similar device at a zoo park in Spain. Its purpose is to keep large animals (lions and tigers) to pass through a gate where cars were allowed to pass. Several parralel wires were installed in the floor (the passing gate is approx. 4 meters in length) and between each nearby wires a current was supplied. For such small animals like rats, the current should be small, but I cannot give you exact value, you'll have to make some test. I would choose for a starting point a 1khz sinewave generator, somewhere at 80-100V peak to peak, with an adjustable current limiter. Start with 1mA limit and make some tests, increase it and observe where the animals begin to react.
/pisoiu
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vfone
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| 01 Oct 2004 22:44 Re: rat electro shock.... |
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| Probably using ultrasounds would be much easier.
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Tornado
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| 01 Oct 2004 23:03 Re: rat electro shock.... |
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I think rat barbeque is better.
Just joking. 
Perchaps some optoelectronics a 240V/240V transformer and some
metalic plates.
Tornado
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bomba
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| 08 Oct 2004 12:31 Re: rat electro shock.... |
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the normal value used to that is a constat current source between 0.1mA to 1.2mA, and the voltage up to 220 V continuos.
Best regards
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radiohead
Joined: 13 May 2004
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| 08 Oct 2004 14:04 Re: rat electro shock.... |
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| Why don't you guys try it out on yourself instead of harming innocent creatures?
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djalli
Joined: 10 Nov 2001
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| 09 Oct 2004 19:33 Re: rat electro shock.... |
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| radiohead wrote: |
| Why don't you guys try it out on yourself instead of harming innocent creatures? |
Well, I have been electrocuted myself 4 times of course of course in all cases was accidental, faulty connections etc.
Now what if accidentally a rat get shocked? We use shocking techniques in medicine. It is very controlled. We need science.
My --- he and others like him may send us to FBI for animal cruelty charges.
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