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Always_Confused_Sudent
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| What math topics should I focus on as an undergraduate student ?
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flatulent
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| 05 Aug 2004 19:45 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| I would suggest ones that are used in engineering such as calculus, differential equations, transforms, Bessel functions, and statistics. Set theory is not used. There are probably courses with the name of "advanced engineering mathematics" at your school or courses which use text books with a title like this.
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Always_Confused_Sudent
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| 05 Aug 2004 20:06 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| flatulent wrote: |
| I would suggest ones that are used in engineering such as calculus, differential equations, transforms, Bessel functions, and statistics. Set theory is not used. There are probably courses with the name of "advanced engineering mathematics" at your school or courses which use text books with a title like this. |
Okay.. I have problems with signals and systems..I couldn't understand it well during the semester but i passed.. do you suggest that I go back to it and study it alone?
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flatulent
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| 05 Aug 2004 20:11 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| My general advice to everyone is to continue to read your old texts every few years and you will be surprised at how much more you understand them. In your case you should shore up your weak points like the signals and systems by reading those books first.
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rajesh13
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| 06 Aug 2004 12:33 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| Always_Confused_Sudent wrote: |
| flatulent wrote: |
| I would suggest ones that are used in engineering such as calculus, differential equations, transforms, Bessel functions, and statistics. Set theory is not used. There are probably courses with the name of "advanced engineering mathematics" at your school or courses which use text books with a title like this. |
Okay.. I have problems with signals and systems..I couldn't understand it well during the semester but i passed.. do you suggest that I go back to it and study it alone? |
I think most of them pass without understanding the Topic. & in reality you understand the Topic when you practice it. Like I give you my example. In my graduation I completely left cmos related topics but now I am working in this field.
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waterman
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| 09 Aug 2004 2:41 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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Add some topics to flatulent's reply.
Linear algebra
Complex varaible
Probaility
These are used in many fields of engineering
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dumbfrog
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| 09 Aug 2004 5:44 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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is matlab count as math?
if yes, master it.
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flatulent
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| 09 Aug 2004 15:50 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| dumbfrog wrote: |
is matlab count as math?
if yes, master it. |
I would suggest that you spend your time in school learning things that require help from others (teachers). You can get proficient on your own with different computer tools after you graduate.
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ahsan
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| 16 Aug 2004 11:24 What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| i would suggest calculus and Algebra
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Buddy
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| 19 Aug 2004 6:48 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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No need to learn maths,
I use Matlab, it has all the functions built in for you! 
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Buddy
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| 19 Aug 2004 6:49 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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Sorry,
And also use Maple -> it is a 'symbolic' math toolbox and you basically type in equations for you, then it calculates derivatives for you etc. !!! 
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artem
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| 19 Aug 2004 9:34 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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[quote="Buddy"]No need to learn maths,
I use Matlab, it has all the functions built in for you! [/quote]
Learning math does not mean just math knowledge it is brain training and will benefit in other than math areas .
Using tools will limit your capabilities . I think it is better to know both math and math tools .
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mahdithdn
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| 19 Aug 2004 12:28 What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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mastering matlab is excellent and cause to apply your mathematical knowledge.
but without understanding what is really happen when you run a program you get nothing.
in addition , i think signal processing is base of many revolution for engineer.
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mami_hacky
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| 19 Aug 2004 13:12 What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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As an electrical engineering undergraduate student, I think Calculus , Differential equations, Complex veriables, Probability are very important.
Learning matlab is a good idea , however, I do not think that it is really necessary.
You should try to learn thos topics related to Digital signal processing, and signals and systems very well. and it is better to have some experiences with matlab.
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djalli
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| 10 Sep 2004 22:22 What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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You forgot a very important calculus. It must be honored as a separate discipline because so much relies on it: VECTOR CALCULUS.
Also do not forget one of the most important tool in engineering: Fourier Transform.
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jpena
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| 20 Sep 2004 16:36 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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Basic math skills are necesary for further developement in other topics as FFT (Fast Fourier Transform), DFT (Discrete Fourier Transform)... all concerning Signal Processing.
You must learn the basic... by that I mean calculus and algebra... and everything build opon them... it will take 3 semesters to achive
Don't forget probability and software as Matlab, Mathcad, Derive, Mathematica... but be warned that this SW does not do thinking for you
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starfish
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| 30 Sep 2004 7:45 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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In undergraduate studies and courses relating to mathematics , some students always have problems........I suggest u to use MATLAB software for evaluation and plotting different types of curves etc......and for signals and systems and signal processing...
It is an excellent tool and it will really open ur thinking boundries when u apply theoratical concepts in courses like signals and systems in MATLAB......U will get a physical significance for the theoratical courses that u have studied by using MATLAb.....
Also if ur weaker in basic mathematics then i would suggest u to review some basic calculus book which u studied in ur undergrad courses.....When u review some material u get more through understanding .............
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golfbumb
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| 03 Oct 2004 9:45 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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If a degree in engineering is your goal, focus on every math course you require as a lower classman, you will only be taking one per semester -- unless you are masochistic. Later, upper division slaps you in the face and you will have to learn to apply more and more complex math five+ courses at a time.
Take your undergraduate math very seriously. Relying on Matlab to do calculations for you is worthless unless you know how to set up a problem in the first place. Those who advocate that Matlab is all you'll need are doing you a disservice. But Matlab and the like are, as someone suggested, wonderful tools for helping you solve those real tough problems, for checking your work, and is a skill you need to learn as a professional.
Currently, as a lower classman at every ABET accredited US university, if you want to get an engineering degree you will have to have:
Calculus 1 (Derivatives ... )
Calculus 2 (Fundamentals of Integration ...)
Calculus 3 (Vector Calculus, 3-D analytic geometry, ...)
Ordinary Differential Equations
Then for each engineering discipline you will get more math. If an EE is your goal, tons of math will be in every single class, everywhere you turn. You wil not pass Control Systems without knowing how to solve differential equations or Analog Design without having to setup a complex integral or Electromechanics without knowing how to convert spherical coordinates into cylindrical ones.
I watched students that put three and four years into school fail out or transfer out because their math skills were not good enough. (Fifty-five percent of the students who tried for their EE degrees in my university class either transferred out to ME or CE or Business or flunked out. )
College math is not easy stuff for most people. Do not try to simply memorize. Learn why things work and, once you get the hang of it, you can reassemble complex formulas out of your head because you know certain components need to be there. When you start to understand that, everything gets a whole lot easier.
Focus on the four at the top and study well. If you do, you won't have to ask what to take next. You'll be well on the road to knowing for yourself.
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ihab
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| 26 Oct 2004 9:11 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| math is the only scince subject which will last with you hesitate you all the time .so a regular review for previous concepts is good and i prefer the complex variables and vector analysis
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nill
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| 03 Nov 2004 14:11 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| For Undergraduate in Engineering, you must be really good in Calculus, including single variable and multivariable calculus. ODE are very important too. Not to forget some Complex Analysis aswell.
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Inverted
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| 11 Nov 2004 8:50 What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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(1) Calculus
(2) Differential Equations
(3) Partial Differential Equations
(4) Laplace Transform
(5) Fourier Transform
(6) Z- Transform
(7) Linear Algebra
( Complex Analysis
(9) Vector Analysis
(10) Special Functions: Gamma, Beta, erfc and Bessel
(11) Probability and Statistics
Besides you should master a computer program to help you, any one of the following:
(1) Maple
(2) Mathcad
(3) MATLAB
(4) Mathematica
But I suggest MATLAB
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greek
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| 18 Nov 2004 15:28 What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| Since you are interested more in the applied part of math maybe you should check the site of a really challenging department like http://www.acm.caltech.edu/
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nas
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| 18 Nov 2004 16:06 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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I think as an engineer , you need to focus on the basic math from Linear Algebra to advance math Advanced Mathematical Engineering . You need to know the trignometries as well as the Differential eqaution and the whole Calculase course .
regrads
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kennyg
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| 10 Jan 2005 15:07 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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My opinion:
Calculus,Vector,PDE,ODE with boundary values----->electromagnetics------->RF
Proability,random process,statistics,---->communications systems
fourier Transform,Laplace transform----->Signal processing
linear algebra,matrix------->control systems
little math---->AIC design
----->power electronics,power systems,electrical mechanics
So,it depends on which subject you are interested in.
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BrunoK
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| 10 Jan 2005 16:27 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| Buddy wrote: |
No need to learn maths,
I use Matlab, it has all the functions built in for you! |
hmmmm... must say i do not agree at all...MatLab makes it easier buyt if u do not understand the basic mathematic, you will eventually encounter some problems. In this case basic mathematic is the topics mentioned earlier.
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zzy_zy
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| 13 Jan 2005 16:31 What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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calculus and Algebra are base;
and Matlab is a good tool;
there are most important for an undergraduate student .
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fantomf4
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| 26 Jan 2005 8:58 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| IF you can't get Matlab, try downloading similar thing called octave from www.octave.org, could just do for you.
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Ivan_Simeon
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| 09 Feb 2005 13:22 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| Dont forget the wavelet analysis.
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GeekWizard
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| 09 Feb 2005 14:26 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| What math topics should I focus on as an undergraduate student ? |
Ofcourse you should know Basic Calculus and Differential Equations stuff as this is only a start. But I would like to emphasize on two topics
1. Probability Theory
2. Linear Algebra
These will help you a lot on the applied side and when solving engineering problems. Especially master your probability theory (random variables, stochastic processes) as they are the keys to really understand many problems.
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cmos babe
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| 23 Feb 2005 22:36 Re: What math topics should I know well as a.. |
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| GeekWizard wrote: |
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| What math topics should I focus on as an undergraduate student ? |
Ofcourse you should know Basic Calculus and Differential Equations stuff as this is only a start. But I would like to emphasize on two topics
1. Probability Theory
2. Linear Algebra
These will help you a lot on the applied side and when solving engineering problems. Especially master your probability theory (random variables, stochastic processes) as they are the keys to really understand many problems. |
Do you recommend any probability theory books?
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