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the_penetrator
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 19 Jul 2004 14:26 Build a black hole in the lab! |
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What is happening the last few days is really great! Stephen Hawking is revising his theory on black hole creation. He says that black holes start losing mass by the time they have been developed. More important that they RADIATE (we knew that -> gamma ray spectrum and beyond).
Which means to me that if some kind of information ever entered a black hole, we can learn something about it at a later time when the BH collapsed.
This can have use for a far superior civilization than ours. Or for us in some thousands or tens of thousand years. I mean sending radio-transmissions from one BH to another. Or ejecting from the same BH at a different time and space.
So BHs are Grey Holes really.
What about "fooling" nature and producing the effect of a great mass at the lab (not any lab, like those in Cern). Anything has great mass if it speeds up a little! And what if we combine fusion with BH? And accelerate its operation in order to die in lab time?
CAN WE BUILD ARE LITTLE PERSONAL BLACK HOLES????
I was amazed by Spiderman-2. Physics is my first profession. I like their approach to fusion. Noone has done it in the lab (of course...) but they said some things to the common audience nicely.
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rauol
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| 13 Aug 2004 13:11 Re: Build a black hole in the lab! |
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 The Idea seems great to create "Personal Black Holes", but whatever we are hearing is a kind oh Hypothesis. the problem is we have still not gone to Mars, and even if technically we are able to communicate through black holes the nearest one is 1600 light years from earth (may be if we start a transmission or something it may reach the Black Hole after 1600 years).
May be unless something like "Star trek" happens and if we are able to communicate at faster than light speed it may be possible but the Existing theory will not allow it. only after Einstein is redefined by our future generation Physicists will that kind of things be possible.
For the Time i will be watching Star Trek on Star world.
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°Bandit°
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| 26 Sep 2004 10:00 Build a black hole in the lab! |
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| idk with the technology i think there hiding in area51 that just might come sooner then we think
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Bluechem
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| 27 Sep 2004 4:58 Build a black hole in the lab! |
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the_penetrator said
"Anything has great mass if it speeds up a little! "
well, I don't know what scale you have used, but I suppose you are talking about speeds comparable to light speed!
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platonas
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| 30 Sep 2004 11:54 Re: Build a black hole in the lab! |
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A BH has a very large mass. It is composed of supper dense matter (protons and nutrons in the absence of the spinning electrons).
Hence, a lab BH of 1cm diameter could weight more than a ton, maybe 4 or 10 tons. What kind of bench in a lab could support a BH of the size of a football?
A BH has such a gravity that might even be possible to absorb its supporting devices in a lab. Or does there any way to achieve this?
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Bluechem
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| 30 Sep 2004 14:00 Re: Build a black hole in the lab! |
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| platonas wrote: |
A BH has such a gravity that might even be possible to absorb its supporting devices in a lab. |
or maybe our whole planet 
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the_penetrator
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| 30 Sep 2004 15:18 Re: Build a black hole in the lab! |
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bluechem and platonas: i agree with you
i was humorous when referring to "speeding up a little". I meant a serious fraction of c.
Anyway it is for the future gens to learn how to control this procedure. Maybe the key is to built a White Hole (great mass of antigravity particles?) so this procedure is controllable.
Of course there is a contradiction here. A lot of people should work together to solve this out.
IMAGINE a two-body system of a BH and a WH. Do the math for the system (don't need to build them yet  ) and TRY to find any equilibrium points.
If there exists, then this system is doable in the very distant future.
Regards
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