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banditaras

Joined: 23 Apr 2002
Posts: 15

13 Jun 2004 14:02 wavecom gsm/gprs and gps ublox

Hi All.

I'm working for a company, that has allready a in car navigation system build. The problem, is that it's developed around a common intel like platform, using third party gprs and gps modules.

The project is to be hardware - redesigned from scratch, and my proposition is to go full custom. Reading here, and general on the net, I couldn't find any single chip, gprs or gps solutions, only some modules. TI and some other mafuctarures have gsm baseband processores, with all those goodies (LCD, Keyboard, camera interfaces, etc), but they do not sell single quantities and building on such a chip is propably science fiction for a medium sized company. Yet, using a plug'n'play gprs or gps module apart from the costs, results in a messy structure with multiple cables, boxes, power cables , etc.

I think the most appropriate solution would be gprs and gps modules boards (I mean not packaged, just some headers for I/O and power) but I couldn't locate any out there. Do you know of anything like that?

Thanks
George

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fireplus

Joined: 31 Oct 2003
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13 Jun 2004 23:42 car navigation integration

go to http://www.falcom.com
you will find what you want Very Happy

Fire in the Wire :sm2:

banditaras

Joined: 23 Apr 2002
Posts: 15

14 Jun 2004 7:39 pindiagram of sirf star\|\|\| in gps

Although my Japaneese are poor, I don't thing Falcom, has anything to do with it. Is this a game development company or something?

Thanks, anyway.
George

pisoiu

Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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Location: Romania

14 Jun 2004 8:05 in car navigation

fireplus wrote:

go to http://www.falcom.com
you will find what you want Very Happy

Fire in the Wire :sm2:

Actually it is www.falcom.de . You can also try www.roundsolutions.com , Telit modules. Small, cheap and reliable, I use it in a similar project.

/pisoiu

asit

Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 95
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Location: India

14 Jun 2004 9:21 incorporating ublox and telit modules

For OEM GPS boards, try NAVMAN www.navman.com. I am using their Jupiter-11 and Jupiter-12 boards. Very good performance and stability.

klchan

Joined: 25 Sep 2002
Posts: 19

09 Jul 2004 18:52 navman in car integration

For the GPRS module, there are many:
SonyEricsson's GM47, Gm48, GR47
Siemens' MC35
Cellon's CMS91

For GPS module, you can find:
u-Blox's TIM

ME

Joined: 14 Mar 2002
Posts: 1523
Helped: 13

10 Jul 2004 12:20 incar gps modules

Wavecom Q2501 GSM/GPRS/GPS www.wavecom.com/Products_V2/product.php?prs_id=49&prg_id=19

First fully integrated dual band GSM/GPRS and GPS module
900/1800 MHz GSM/GPRS Class 10
Direct access to GPS or GPS driven by GSM/GPRS
Small size
IP Connectivity over Open AT (TCP/IP, POP3, SMTP)
MQ Telemetry (Websphere)

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xeon11

Joined: 25 Jul 2004
Posts: 3

25 Jul 2004 16:06 jupiter 11 gps

HI All,

i'm new to this forum and very interested in this section on GPS as my daily job evolves around system integration with GPS modules.

For module, i'm currently testing a GPS module by this company based in China and they are using Samsung + UNav technology. Manage to get hold of an engineering sample (very small in size) during my China business trip last month and preliminary testings were very good and the tracking sensitivity could go all the way down to -153dbm (-183dbW). We have been testing this gps module outdoor and indoor (with a GPS simulator in our office) and preliminary results were good.

you can try www.axisem.com . Don't think they have officially launched it yet but no harm asking !

cheers mates !

abi

Joined: 06 Jul 2004
Posts: 4

29 Jul 2004 7:59 incar gps u-blox

I think banditaras (george) not asking for module either GPS or GSM/GPRS, but he asking at lower level, like component.
So far as I know, to develop GSM/GPRS module it is quite hard either on engineering and commercial, too many giant players there. The component to constuct GPRS still at many count, and they sold at very very big quantity order. But for GPS there is some Chipset profider say ok to sell at lower quantity, ie 20K. Because if you buy at lower quantity, you will be not competitive.
The chipset provider is :
- SiRF (when first produce, they even sell at 10 pcs), for start up testing, but now you should talk at 10K to 20K.
- Antaris IC (joint between atmel and ublox)
- UNav at http://www.unav-micro.com/; Fastrax using their IC
And I think Motorola sell at medium quantity too.
GPS chips set count at 1 to 3 chips, with small amount of other component, could be under 20 pcs.
So you can try from the GPS first, then pls let me know the result.....
Good luck

regard

brmadhukar

Joined: 21 Jun 2002
Posts: 844
Helped: 29

06 Aug 2004 19:11 siemens tc35 -tc35i datasheet oem

Hi Banditaras,
Analog Devices have a chipset specifically for your requirement. You may check them out.
B R M

7rots51

Joined: 17 May 2002
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08 Aug 2004 21:23 Re: in car navigation system integration

is there a solution for car navigation with sattelite phones?(technical articles with circuit and code?)
like as:
http://www.satphone.co.uk/

thunderboympm

Joined: 17 Sep 2007
Posts: 7
Location: Kerala

25 Jun 2009 8:15 Re: in car navigation system integration

asit wrote:

For OEM GPS boards, try NAVMAN www.navman.com. I am using their Jupiter-11 and Jupiter-12 boards. Very good performance and stability.

please give me the pin diagram of that module. in datasheet only marked the first pin but no the 11 or 10. can you please inform me the pin diagram
thanks in advance

asit

Joined: 22 Mar 2002
Posts: 95
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Location: India

25 Jun 2009 8:58 Re: in car navigation system integration

Pins are interleaved. If you know the pin 1 then proceed as below :

2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16 18 20

1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19

Try getting the Developers/designer guide for jupiter 12, it might be available on net.