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guamak_menanak
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 29 Apr 2004 8:56 Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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As for me, 'Behzad Razavi' is my idole...I'm very curious to be like him 
What about others?
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eda4you
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| 29 Apr 2004 10:25 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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My idol is R.J. Widlar for his work on
+ current sources
+ amplifiers
+ voltage refernces (band gap reference)
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stanleyu
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| 30 Apr 2004 9:01 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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-Thomas Lee of Stanford Uni in RF CMOS design ..He has breed quite a lot of assosiate professor in other UNi such as Don Lee in Harvard Uni, Ali Hajimiri of Caltech and numerous more who published some good books about RF cmos.
-Paul Gray & Meyer from Berkeley Uni
-Asad Abidi from UCLA
-Paul Allen from Gatech Uni
and many many more ...
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BigBoss
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| 30 Apr 2004 18:58 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| Barrie Gilbert....
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flatulent
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| 30 Apr 2004 19:15 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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One problem in this area is that the best designers never wrote books or journal articles and very few people know about them. Most of these people worked on secret military and espionage projects that were decades ahead of their time and would be called state of the art several decades later, but they cannot claim the credit for them.
There is also the problem of credit for reinventing. The "Gilbert mixer" existed back in the valve/tube days. 28 GHz radar was operational in 1945. In 1943 there was a radar transponder the size of a paper back book which showed the location of the infantry units on the ground on the aircraft radar. It also contained a two way voice channel by modulating the pulse parameters in both directions. The US military had operational OFDM systems in 1950. The Germans had FHSS operational systems in around 1943.
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jorgito
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| 30 Apr 2004 19:48 Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| Jim Williams
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flatulent
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| 30 Apr 2004 19:51 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| I forgot to mention that microwave synthesizers that switched in a fraction of an RF cycle period existed by 1960.
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guamak_menanak
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| 01 May 2004 4:50 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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Flatulent:
"One problem in this area is that the best designers never wrote books or journal articles and very few people know about them. Most of these people worked on secret military and espionage projects that were decades ahead of their time and would be called state of the art several decades later, but they cannot claim the credit for them"
So, there are a lot of superb designer we don't know? Wow...very interesting!  Very courious to know one of them and on what feild they are expertize! [/b]
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mesfet
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| 01 May 2004 5:14 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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Hi All,
Commication at 60GHz band is a hot topic in conference this year. Anyone heard of J.C. Bose? He demonstrated wireless communication at 60GHz in 1890!
http://www.tuc.nrao.edu/~demerson/bose/bose.html
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ASIC
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| 01 May 2004 5:58 Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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Valdemar Poulsen, the father of the HiFi set. He invented radio (real voice, not that dots-and-dashes crap), and had a 100kW AM transmitter in his garden shed. Accidentally he also invented the tape recorder.
James Clerk Maxwell also comes to mind 
ASIC
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rfsystem
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| 04 May 2004 13:07 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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JNekas
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| 04 May 2004 14:18 Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| Barrie Gilbert, he is working now and his works about translinear circuits were published
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borodenkov
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| 04 May 2004 19:47 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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2 guamak_menanak:
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| So, there are a lot of superb designer we don't know? Wow...very interesting! Very courious to know one of them and on what feild they are expertize! |
Do you know the names of analog designers working currently in National Semiconductors, Maxim, TI etc???
Do you know any of the people who created the most advanced systems for military, space etc (analog those days and without modern CAD tools) 20-40 years ago (or even before if we speak about tubes as well)?
In most cases we know only the names of people from the academics for their books and publications - and there's a lot of design that is not so well described.
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| 04 May 2004 22:10 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| There are a lot of interesting people out there who do not make any big deal of their past. One of my friends was in Merrill's Marauders in the 1939-1945 war. Another was a mercenary in South East Asia around 1955. Another invented the gas laser. Another was one of the soldiers in the famous photo of the US and Soviet soldiers meeting for the first time in Germany. Another was a Lancaster pilot who continued to fly even though he fulfilled the mission limit and could have been out of danger.
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SAR
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| 05 May 2004 0:15 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| National Instruments Guru Robert Pease.
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korek
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| 05 May 2004 8:01 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| You mean National Semiconductor!
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| 30 May 2004 20:48 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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Dr.Thomas H. Lee
He has had a major role in most of the really popular works...which are really the turning points in RFIC design!!!!
get them here...ur in for a surprise
http://www.edaboard.com/ftopic78884.html
http://www.edaboard.com/ftopic78882.html
http://www.edaboard.com/ftopic78888.html
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| 04 Jun 2004 21:14 Re: Who is your idol in Analog Design? |
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How about Gray and Meyer at Berkeley ?
I don't know about you guys but this is I feel the best book in Analog IC design from an explanation point of view. The new book is updated with CMOS too and is amazing, can start learning from scratch which is more than I can say for Razavi or Lee, which assume you are a PhD student.
As for other designers, most of electronics is shrouded in military secrecy: most of the work by Lee, Hajimiri, Gray, Meyer, and whoever else is done for the US military and I am sure it is the same in other countries around the world -- these of course cannot be published and you can be sure work at Caltech with Hajimiri involves military work, I mean that is what Caltech is for.
Most engineering work is not known, especially in the military arena and probably never will be.
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| 04 Jun 2004 22:17 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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I totally agree with Puppet1 about "the" book for starting to learn analog ic..why even analog design in general....I particularly love the way the in chapter 3 the small signal model is introduced and the way in which the need for biasing has been elucidated by plotting the Vo vs Vi curve for a simple single stage CE or CS stage!!!!
really love analog ic design by gray and meyer
another major book that I read even before gray and meyer is called
Electronic Principles: Physics, Models and Circuits
by Paul E. Gray, Campbell L. Searle
this is THE BOOK I would say to really really start analog circuit design in general...the design problems and examples are even better than gray and meyers!!!!
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micel99
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| 12 Jun 2004 7:24 Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| I like Johan Huijsing.
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thcm
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| 13 Jun 2004 15:21 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| I like Thomas H .Lee and Razavi.
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iamlog
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| 16 Jun 2004 8:41 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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I will say Razavi may be the 11th (atmost) in analog design.
He may be the best textbook writer and best instructor but definitely no best designer at all means.
His book is good---only for students at college--you underderstand a lot from his book---but you still can not design a circuit after finishing his book. Or you can design one circuit, at the review, some body will ask how have been out off school.
There too most porpular book on RF: one is Tom Lee one is by Razavi. Tom make things simple, but razavi makes thing complex...But after reading Tom's book, i like his better. But it mat be better begin from Razavi's....
Industry influence? look which circuit by Razavi can be directly used in industry....you tell me one?
You can look at Huisjing's Opamp, yes, you can copy them and use in the product, and amazingly, it works!
RFIC? look circuits by Steyaert group...
A/D converter...look at Gray's....
PLL? look at Stanford Horowiz group's design....
OK you want to talk theory? Noise? Look at Tom's group....
Razavi, a good instructor...that is it
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rauol
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| 16 Jun 2004 10:36 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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"William Shockley" 
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annbyr
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| 16 Jun 2004 11:06 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| TP Liu, he is the strongest man in RF&analog I've ever met ^_^
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xshou
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| 17 Jun 2004 3:13 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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On top of my list:
Widlar (reference)
Gilbert (translinear)
Adams (log domain signaling)
Tom Lee (fractional cap, oscillator phase noise)
Poschenrieder (SC)
We lack originality in analog IC design for the past two decades.
Does it imply analog is a mature topic?
Razavi at best is good teacher and he is not creative enough.
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| 17 Jun 2004 4:43 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| Dilbert
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fun.zhao
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| 21 Jun 2004 9:57 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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Abidi & Tomas Lee
Because I'm Radio-frequency IC engineer.
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Puppet1
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| 21 Jun 2004 11:14 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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analog ic was once a topic that people didn't talk about or write textbooks about -- like picasso or matisse -- it was art - something few people could do outside of berkeley.
now analog ic has matured along with every other industry -- be it plastic, steel industry, textiles, railways, telephones, automobile, computers -- all of them -- microelectronics has matured.
one person you didn't mention was asad abidi -- who says in a recent IEEE paper that analog is dead, since the dynamic range is shrinking with shrinking voltage we are just assembling transistors to make systems, the circuit innovation is just done, now we are just making algorithms, and not designing new topologies or new circuit methodologies.
all that is left is mathematics, complexity, signal processing and extracting as much as you can out of a technology that is dead and dying with no new process or technology on the horizon.
microelectronics is saturated.
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| 21 Jun 2004 11:33 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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| borodenkov wrote: |
Do you know the names of analog designers working currently in National Semiconductors, Maxim, TI etc???
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sometimes they keep the names in low profiles. I did one internship as student and the company keeps secret names of their engineers. If you need to talk to someone they send you to some manager guy which surely knows what the company is doing but if advanced questions asked he says that he will get back with another call for you for the question. He asks engineers. weird?
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guamak_menanak
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| 22 Jun 2004 3:58 Re: Who is your idole in Analog Design? |
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sometimes they keep the names in low profiles. I did one internship as student and the company keeps secret names of their engineers. If you need to talk to someone they send you to some manager guy which surely knows what the company is doing but if advanced questions asked he says that he will get back with another call for you for the question. He asks engineers. weird?
It seems like analog designer are working with 'Secret Agent'!
To hard to know them?
Are they double agent?
Working more than one company?
Hehe...not the double agent from SD-6 [from 'ALIAS'(drama story)] 
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