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maziar

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30 Mar 2004 7:05 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

xxtigerxx wrote:

i think that the best is visual C++ because all the os was built in these platform winxp , linux ...

visual basic is for beginners......

IS NOT TRUE : YOU can program with c++ (and then pascal,basic,have ) in linux but most importanat topic both MFC and .NET not presient in linux .....
vc++ absolutly don work in linux (MFC base class or .NET)

best way for program in both in windows and linux (cross platform)
in delphi or c++builder in windows and you can port in linux by borland kylix ....

Taro: it can also do it with delphi and VB in real simple exe file work under all windows but vc++ require true mdc.dll !

i think delphi is best
faster, source library, huge component, cross platform , .net ,linux , win32 .......

Antharax

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30 Mar 2004 7:54 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

You clearly haven't heard of Mono Wink

The .Net port for linux (with a C# compiler for linux) Wink

Haven't tried it but I've heard it is good. Not everything MS creates is bad (although they just took the good parts from java, added some interesting C++ and other languages features, mixed ... Wink

)

But I don't like Visual C++ since it is folowing the Microsoft Standard (which always seems to be quite different from the real one) Although I heard that version 7.1 was better (It was the first one with good support for templates) the one I'm using (6.0 with some SP thingies) sux!

Antharax

maziar

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02 Apr 2004 6:56 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Antharax wrote:

You clearly haven't heard of Mono Wink

The .Net port for linux (with a C# compiler for linux) Wink

Haven't tried it but I've heard it is good. Not everything MS creates is bad ...
Antharax

Yes have C# For Linux but the .NET firmwork from Windows is diffrent with linux then you can not port MSStudio to linux

I think all ability im MSstudio for programming (and some better of it av. in borland product face to face )

BUT many of option and Expert for RAD not av. in msstudio ...

pony

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16 Apr 2004 14:08 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

I have used VC, VB, Delphi, Borland C++...
I think Visual C++ is best, whenever you want to make program that run under windows.
If you use othes, Delphi is better, faster....

amok

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21 Apr 2004 11:50 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

I believe that Visual C++ is a good choise, espesially if you are familiar with C and C++. About the IDE(Integrated Design Enviroment) that is up to you.
I prefer Borlands C++Builder. You can use it to create DLLs, cosnole applications and ofcourse GUIs. Another plus, is that it is compatible with MFC (Microsoft), so you can compile any application you have created using that library.
Finally, incase you want to move from C++Builder to Delphi, you will allready know VCL.

Regards

atmaca

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21 Apr 2004 12:25 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Of course Visual C++ is better.

But if you have not got lots of time to write code on a subject,
and the speed of program is not important for you, Visual Basic it the best choice.

For Delphi I have no idea.

Thanks,

tgq

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21 Apr 2004 17:32 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

VB is exactly what we need for Quick-and-dirty progs !

Kimmy

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04 May 2004 12:21 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Each language has its own purpose. Visual Basic is for simple GUI programs where there are no or little performance concerns. C++ is excellent language for serious programming where performance is extremely critical. Like wise Delphi has its own domain. So a distinction can't be made. how can you compare apples with oranges.

omara007

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04 May 2004 15:17 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

each one has points of strength in certain direction .. and if we can say C++ is better , then Del. and VB should be obsolute!! .. the same applies to the ther 2 .. and as long as all are in use till this moment .. then u can't be 100% sure which one is the best ..

Application implies which is best suitable ..

lollobrigido

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04 May 2004 15:52 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

I'm currently using visual basic for user graphical interface calling visual C++ DLL for the "hard work".
About delphi...i don't know.
lollo

CTEPH

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04 Jun 2004 2:08 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Delphi is pretty good... I started with Delphi... But now i realize that some sources or information is more easy to find on VC++. Delphi have a less support (IMHO).

lollobrigido

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07 Jun 2004 12:01 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Now I'm using VB . Net to develope a PDA application and I found this very like to C but everything is much more complicate whith respect to VB6. For example if you want to access to a control in a window from a module...I 'm not able to do!
The MSCOMM control for the serial interface seem to be not longer supported.
The language syntax is more difficult but much more advanced.

Lollo

marwa

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07 Jun 2004 13:12 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

i think delphi is the best i have used it in speech recognition u can also use borland c++ builder
the difference between them that delphi is written in pascal while builder in c++

is_razi

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07 Jun 2004 14:43 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

SphinX wrote:

Hi,

What do you use?

Thanx
SphinX

i recommend borlan c++ builder.i think it's the greatest.
it has the strength of c++ and has the visual basic simplicity.
it's the delphies brother but delphies programming language is pascal
test it.
good luck, Wink

mamali

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07 Jun 2004 22:09 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

i heard that C builder libraries are of delphi's, is it right? one of my friends coding with vc++ told me that vc++ codes are faster than c builder's becouse of this.

marti

mamali

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07 Jun 2004 22:13 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

maziar wrote:

xxtigerxx wrote:

i think that the best is visual C++ because all the os was built in these platform winxp , linux ...

visual basic is for beginners......

hi refigh,
you could do that with Q++ for VC++ too, but kylix is kinda cool, you right Wink

.

marti

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ataha

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08 Jun 2004 0:45 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

C++ builder is the most suitable for RAD , huge library of components but if you need better optimization of code ( in compiling) use visual c++ . This will affect the speed of execution and memory managment

tcsa35

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08 Jun 2004 9:12 What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

VisualC++ is better for windows application development.

hamming

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08 Jun 2004 11:11 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

The best one is the one you are familiar with. If you are familiar with all, then take VC++

jhonny_yang

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08 Jun 2004 15:06 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

maziar wrote:

xxtigerxx wrote:

i think that the best is visual C++ because all the os was built in these platform winxp , linux ...

visual basic is for beginners......

Delphi & Borland C++ is now more large support multi platform. (Win32 , Linux , Solaris).

VB & VC just for ms product. Maybe .net platform can support more large platform.

For fast programming RAD tools like delphi , borland c++ builder and vb is great. (fast , easy , efficient).

At last what tools you use every time that is a good tools.

prokopec

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09 Jun 2004 5:53 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

I think Visual C++ is better

Antharax

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09 Jun 2004 13:22 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

I think this discussion is becomming pointless and I'm thinking of locking it!
Everybody thinks the software he uses is the best because
- he/she doesn't know any other
- he/she found that software best fitting his needs
- ...

The best software for everything does not exist!
And even when some other software language/compiler might be better for the job, using the things you know is probably better in your case!

Designing good software does not depend on the language you use or the compiler! It mainly starts with a good design (and plain old paper is an excelent way to do this)! When you want portability, think about it when you're designing your application's framework and try not to depend on the compiler you're using.

The main thing which might be different between different compilers/languages/operatingsystems is how to make a GUI. And here the environment might make a difference.

samc

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09 Jun 2004 16:10 What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

In my opinion,C++ is the language of engineer,in Win VC++ is better,But if you like linux or unix,gcc is another choice and more powerful.

maziar

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13 Jun 2004 14:16 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

i Have prgram for nine years old with VB,Delphi,Cbulder & VC++

depended what you do

if you need progem for executable and need good program the best choise is delphi and if you have C++ lover choise C++builder .....

because the (delphi or c++builder) compiler generate native exe file withe the exe speed the same as c++

1. have full open source
2. linux win32 & .NET platform
3. very rich component (188 component in enterprice)
4. very free or low price component set
5. the end of visual programming ....
6. powerfull internet & db section
7. have native exe file

if you try generate simple today program withh vc & delphi in same time
the delphi version 800% faster finish job and have better ability !

maziar

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13 Jun 2004 14:21 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

CTEPH wrote:

Delphi is pretty good... I started with Delphi... But now i realize that some sources or information is more easy to find on VC++. Delphi have a less support (IMHO).

this is not true

delphi have largest newsgroup in net ! yhe hundred of user help you if you need help see borland development network

it not require register and help anyone in 24h of day in lower 10 min !

also have over 850 forum in over 43 language Razz

maziar

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13 Jun 2004 14:31 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

iamme wrote:

....

It is correct that beacuse of VC++6 is for Microsoft.
But even Microsoft can design a program that were good.

some user think vc++ generate to many normal and small company don do large job !

m$$$$ use .net for four years but after it public it !

now micro$oft & sun use new next generation of java for next
but M$ public .NET for carzy user !

if you don forget : OLE -> com -> com+ -> mts
the life all of each only lower 1.5 year and the M$ based programmer must migrate evrey day !

but borland programmer use ALL in ALL time !

if you dont like pascal use c++builder

can give me what topic of vc++ no place in c++builder ?

netwizio

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13 Jun 2004 22:37 What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

i think Visual C++ is better but some times i think that what if MS stops supporting VC as i think it is in the favour of dot net technologies

jetset

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27 Jun 2004 7:14 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Visual C++ is the best ever!!!!

sinatra

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27 Jun 2004 9:48 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

Hey guys.
You are forgeting the most important language and probably one of the most used: JAVA.
It's free and you can simply find everything you need one the net using google.
Most of the jobs available in the informatics market are for java programmers.
Everything in one: compatibility with all operating systems, portability, internet, free development tools, large comunity, speed is not a concern any more, muiltiplatform, less bug prone, security included, etc..
If you want to learn some language that will not be obsolete in few years, because the company made upgrades, invented "dot something", etc.. just don't use microsoft.
Borland is good, java more important, .....
Grettings too all
S.

mayaka2004

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27 Jun 2004 13:11 Re: What is the better Visual Basic, Visual C++ or Delphi ?

sinatra wrote:

less bug prone

very good ...!

the maths unit in java dosnt work properly
i can provide at least 3 examples of code that "should" work
and does work in c++ nemonics

but java dosnt compute the data correctly

so ... it is not the best

c++ is the best to learn becosue it shows you clearly what is going on

visual c is like visual basic it is a tool for manipulate code macros
a code macro is a block of code used for a specific job maybe you already wrote {much like making music on midi} for copy and paste

there is heeps of source code for c and c++ and many second hand books avalible in local charity shops

why try to reinvent the wheel java is just there to make html work better
over various platforms
and shouldnt be concidered as a language more of a patch

and is not ment as a stand alone language
although more recently it gets used more and more as one

mostly by people who dont understand c++
and think they will get something{speed} for nothing {no they wont}

each to his own

find a language you like and stick too it

for a free compiler for c++ with the choice to buy a very very cheep developers cd think about digital mars they also provide other common languages and ones of there own....

it is mostly used by companies who write code becouse its cheep to licence

java on the other hand is free till you make something
then it will cost you more....