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hawsona



Joined: 22 Jan 2002
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Post29 May 2003 4:27   large signal impedance match,help!!!

Now I use A(at)gilent A(at)DS to design Gilbert Upconversion Mixer,but because I use the design guide of A(at)ds,but the guide is use small signal to test the input impedance. So the LO port impedance is not accurate.

Can anyone tell me how I can test the impedance under large signal condition accurately?

Or give me some reference.Thanx very much!

My email is : carmine_rene(at)hotmail.com
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arash_ee



Joined: 27 Apr 2003
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Location: Iran


Post31 May 2003 21:21   

hi
if you need any information about matching impedance network at large signal you can download this pdf .
its address is:
http://rfwireless.rell.com/pdfs/AN_721_D.pdf

I find another good article for you:
see this
http://www.sandiego.edu/~ekim/e194rfs01/zmatch.doc

If you need Pi network impedance matching you can compute your network online at this site:
http://www.raltron.com/cust/tools/network_empedance_matching.asp
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nandopg



Joined: 26 Apr 2001
Posts: 248
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Post31 May 2003 23:06   Large Signal Input Impedance using Spice

Find through the link bellow a reference that can solve your problem,

http://www.rfmd.com/databooks/db97/Ta0041.pdf

NandoPG
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BigBoss



Joined: 17 Nov 2001
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Post31 May 2003 23:44   

Why you need LO port input impedance of Gilbert Cell Mixer ?
Under the high level signal condition , input impedance of a Gilbert cell mixer varies by LO signal amplitude. Regarding to saturation status of bipolar transistors ( varies proportional to tanh ) input impedance will be depended on instantinous signal amplitude therefore finding a simple impedance level is almost impossible. You drive with a certain level to saturate them. That's it..

In fact LO amplitude should be high as possible high to avoid transient noise. For a simple Gilbert cell structure this level must be over 300mVpp.

But if you use more complicated device , I don't know..

In fact to drive Gilbert cell mixer , a buffer amplifier should be used to prevent LO frequency pulling..This is very important. In this case input impedance is not very important.

Regards ,
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alongsh



Joined: 29 May 2003
Posts: 7


Post02 Jun 2003 3:00   

the buffer amplifier can easy match to
50ohm
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