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SyNTaXer

Joined: 05 Mar 2002
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17 Feb 2003 14:26 If anybody need help in EAGLE, ask me in this POST !

i think the topic says enough. i want to give help as long as i can.

bye SyNTaXer Wink

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bunalmis

Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 246
Helped: 4
Location: Turkey

17 Feb 2003 15:40 Re: If anybody need help in EAGLE, ask me in this POST !

I need pcb engraving program for eagle.
Yes eagle has this utility but i dont like it.

I have a good idea Can you write ulp program for eagle.

Marmelado

Joined: 06 Apr 2002
Posts: 46

17 Feb 2003 17:30

How can I put designs inside other designs?

Thanks!

SyNTaXer

Joined: 05 Mar 2002
Posts: 31

17 Feb 2003 17:59

do you want to use parts of an existing schematic in your new project ?
and later make a pcb of it ?

or you only want to import a part of an existing pcb, without to have a forward/back annotation with schematic ?

Marmelado

Joined: 06 Apr 2002
Posts: 46

17 Feb 2003 18:05

I want to integrate other designs in my design, i need only schematic:)

Thanks!

bunalmis

Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 246
Helped: 4
Location: Turkey

17 Feb 2003 18:15

Hello SyNTaXer,

Yes I need software for my CNC.

I draw a simple PCB using eagle 4.03. (Look in test.zip)

Bottom layer has orginal PCB lines and pads.
I convert this lines manualy and i drow for you, this lines at the top layer.

Manual convertion is diffucult and Outlines.ulp not good (my idea)

I need ulp program for this purpose.

Thanks.

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SyNTaXer

Joined: 05 Mar 2002
Posts: 31

18 Feb 2003 13:57

Marmelado wrote:

I want to integrate other designs in my design, i need only schematic:)

Thanks!

* then open your old reference schematic file with eagle.
* type "group" and select all parts you need
* type "cut" and press right mouse button
* go to eagle "control panel" and now open you schematic where you want to import these parts
* now type "paste"
* and be happy

hope it is what you are looking for

bye SyNTaXer

SyNTaXer

Joined: 05 Mar 2002
Posts: 31

18 Feb 2003 14:25

bunalmis wrote:

after a long time of thinking i (know) i'm checking.
you want only isolate milling (hope it is right translated from german: isolationsfräsen)

look in the attachment, this time i've made it for you.
open it in eagle, then type "ratsnest" and i hope this is what you want.

next time you should use the command "polygon" to do this.
if dont know how this command work, ask me in this post again.

bye SyNTaXer

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indi2go

Joined: 31 May 2001
Posts: 34
Helped: 7

18 Feb 2003 20:07 Display bug in Eagle V4.x

If i work with V3.55 all things are right.

Now I have a look at V4.X and there happen some strange things.

When i make zooms or move some parts, some buttons disapear or
some layer are displayed wrong.
If I save the Board and open it again all thing are all right, but after
some movements....
(I work with Win2k Version)
Is there a known problem with displaydriver under win2k in Version 4.x??

SyNTaXer

Joined: 05 Mar 2002
Posts: 31

20 Feb 2003 15:26 Re: Display bug in Eagle V4.x

indi2go wrote:

allright, i also had this problem.
* try out the newest version of eagle 4.09r2
* also newest service pack of win2k
* newest graficcard driver for win2k

now it should work fine.
trust me. i also work with win2k and at my start i also had problems like u.

bye SyNTaXer

bunalmis

Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 246
Helped: 4
Location: Turkey

20 Feb 2003 16:36

To: SyNTaXer

Realy wonderfull.

Your test.pcb working but i could'nt new simple drawing.

How work? Polygon command need extra parameters.

Thanks.

pico

Joined: 30 Sep 2001
Posts: 261
Helped: 5

23 Feb 2003 3:06

How can I put my logo (graphic or picture) into the PCB?

MrAndy

Joined: 09 Jul 2002
Posts: 13

23 Feb 2003 12:50

Quote:

How can I put my logo (graphic or picture) into the PCB?

look at ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/pub/userfiles/misc/bmp2eagle.zip

pico

Joined: 30 Sep 2001
Posts: 261
Helped: 5

25 Feb 2003 4:01

Thank you MrAndy.
I have another question.
How can I make or connect sub-circuits in the same project. I can use multisheet to draw the circuits, but how can I connect them together (what connector or symbol to be use) and can I draw a black box to replace the sub-circuit and connect it to the main drawing. If you have some examples please post it or PM me.

challenger

Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Posts: 27

28 Feb 2003 8:18

After smashing parts all part names and values have a crosshair applied to them. This looks very messy. How do I turn off all those cross hairs?

Can you tell me what the major difference is between veresion 4.03 and ver 4.09r2.

Thanx

SyNTaXer

Joined: 05 Mar 2002
Posts: 31

05 Mar 2003 11:32

pico wrote:

to pico :u're right. its bad that eagle doesn't use port in/out functions over multiple sheets.

all you can do is. draw your own parts in library.
* one symbol looks like this ---> for port out
* and one symbol looks like this ---< for port in
* without a footprint, in eagle it is called package
* then make a device of each part, one call port_in and one port_out

now u can put it in schematic, but remember this has no effect, it is only for a better overview, where signals go out and come in.
the name of the net, you must rename by hand to get a connection between port_in and port_out lines.

i know, symbols like this are in standard eagle libs, but they are realy shitty.

hope that i could help u,
bye SyNTaXer

SyNTaXer

Joined: 05 Mar 2002
Posts: 31

05 Mar 2003 11:40

challenger wrote:

to challenger:

the crosshair after smashing is because the names and values are now like a own part. you can move, change and do what u want with them.
looks messy: hmm, let me think. what can we do here.
i think we could do nothing. but could u tell me, why do you think this looks like messy, i don't think so. i do not attend this crosshairs.

bye SyNTaXer

thomaz

Joined: 04 May 2001
Posts: 57
Location: atlantis

05 Mar 2003 23:48

the crosshairs are the origins of the names and values, you can see it when you rotate a name or value
I don't mind them, because they are really tiny
they don't appear when you print on paper

pico

Joined: 30 Sep 2001
Posts: 261
Helped: 5

12 Mar 2003 18:11

Thanks SyNTaXer for your answer.
I think the crosshairs are used for aligning parts.

bunalmis

Joined: 03 Jan 2003
Posts: 246
Helped: 4
Location: Turkey

13 Mar 2003 13:55 polygon command and negative gerber

Hello SyNTaXer,

Did you forget my question?
Can you said to me Polygon command parameters ?
How is works?

My second question, I need negative gerber file.
How can i find negative gerber file from the gerber file.

Topper

Joined: 31 Jan 2002
Posts: 25
Location: Denmark

13 Mar 2003 15:56

Hi SynTaXer.

I have one for you. How do you place one part of a device in one sheet and the rest in another. eg. a relay where you want the coil in one sheet and the switch in sheet 2 ?? Crying or Very sad

Topper

Joined: 31 Jan 2002
Posts: 25
Location: Denmark

14 Mar 2003 10:31

Hi Again.

Solved the problem. Idea

You place the coil (named RL1) in sheet 1.
Then you go to sheet 2 and TYPE 'INVOKE RL1' after this you select the switch and place it.

Simple ... stupid me Embarassed

SyNTaXer

Joined: 05 Mar 2002
Posts: 31

14 Mar 2003 13:32 Re: polygon command and negative gerber

bunalmis wrote:

not forgotten bunalmis :

so lets start.
the polygon command in eagle is used to draw a copper plane on pcb.
that this command works fine you had to parametrize it.

i start with width: width in this case means first the outline of the polygone and secound the connection to each device where the signal should go.
a device in polygone command is connected from 4 sides, if it is possible.

solid and hatch:
if you want pure copper an pcb use solid. hatch makes crosshairs on pcb.

thermals on/off:
thermals on is used to solder with a slight themperature to do not destroy the soldered device. in thermals on mode eagle make 4 connection of a part from 4 sides, like the icon in eagle.
thermals off is used when you have big current on a device and need the whole track with. but its often hard so solder, themperature must go still higher.

orphans on/off:
if you draw a polygon and this polygone is crossed with a wire the polygon make a isolating clerance between wire and polygon.
with orphans on the polygon is also drawn behind the wire because there is'nt any connection between these 2 polygons.
with orphans off the polygon is only drawn where it could be connected physicaly.

isolate is the distance between signals.

spacing it the distance between lines when use hatch

last one is rank, use this to give each polygone a number of its importance. where rank 1 is most importaint and rank 6 least importaint.
if a rank 1 polygone cross a rank 6 polygone, the rank 6 polygone is reduced that rank 1 polygone fits. try this and you will see easy what i mean.

all you have to to is now to play around with this command.

put in some devices and draw a polygon from one part to another like the signal is going. rename the polygon with command "name" like the signals name you want to connect. type in "ratsnest" and see what has been done. so you could easy route a pcb in eagle and send it to a cnc to make isolate milling. the pcb its very quicklier ready if the cnc must mill out all the not used copper. but only to prefer for easy boards.

thy this, and if there are any questions, you know what do have to do Wink

(ask me)

Hope that i could help you and others.

PS : sorry for my bad english, it not my basic language

bye SyNTaXer

Ludvig

Joined: 24 Mar 2002
Posts: 21

18 Mar 2003 11:29 Autorouting

Hi
I connect IC-sockets with yellow lines from layer 19 in a very simple design to test autorouting. Then I click Autorout icon. Autorouter set up window pops up. There is top - bottom - all other layers N/A. I click OK and my screen flashes 2-3 times. After that I can read "Autorouter 100% finished" but there is no changes in my PCB-design. Its still same "airwires". Before I start autorout I chg wire to Bottom 0,6.
Mvbrgds Ludvig

SyNTaXer

Joined: 05 Mar 2002
Posts: 31

18 Mar 2003 12:55 Re: Autorouting

Ludvig wrote:

you had to change the "preffered directions" for each layer in autoroute window to :
* for all directions
- for horizontal directions
| for vertical directions

then it works, but i prefer, do not use the eagle autorouter, it isn't a good one

bye SyNTaXer

Ludvig

Joined: 24 Mar 2002
Posts: 21

18 Mar 2003 13:11 Autorouter

Thks for fast replay to my msg.
I chg to * on bottom and top layer for all direction but still no luck. I use 2 sockets and 12 wires on my test and the router seems to work but nothing shows on the screen. Only airwires after routing despite the system says Autorouting finished 100%. Do you poss have any more suggestion? Sad