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The Puma
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 15 Feb 2003 21:32 Which is best program for schematics and PCB |
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Please advice
Thx
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flatulent
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| 15 Feb 2003 21:42 It all depends |
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It all depends upon how complex your circuit is, how much time you want to spend learning the program, and the cost you are willing to have.
Orcad products are generally easy to learn and use but they will not handle very complex boards which is why the higher price programs sell.
Pads is slightly lower performance, but many people find that it meets their needs for the cost.
P*otel is very much like orcad, but they are behind in the simulation area.
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ME
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| 15 Feb 2003 21:42 |
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| I'm satisfied with OrCAD Family release 9.2
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The Puma
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| 15 Feb 2003 21:50 |
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| I will use it for only single or double sided boards
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flatulent
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| 15 Feb 2003 23:41 all will work |
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| In your simple case cost is probably the most important feature.
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hugo
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| 16 Feb 2003 0:08 |
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For me, the best program and easy to use, for schematic, pcb and simulation is Protel99se (but nothing about the price!)
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ME
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| 16 Feb 2003 0:20 |
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If you want a program for free you can use EAGLE Light Edition from CadSoft. I works great for small projects.
The following limitations apply to the EAGLE Light Edition in general:
*The useable board area is limited to 100 x 80 mm (4 x 3.2 inches).
*Only two signal layers can be used (Top and Bottom).
*The schematic editor can only create one sheet.
http://www.cadsoft.de/freeware.htm
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hugo
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| 16 Feb 2003 3:41 |
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A pretty nice program for schematics & pcb is ExpressPCB and it's free completely free!!! You can download a fully functional version from this site http://www.expresspcb.com/
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sortlaih
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| 17 Feb 2003 11:45 |
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| I found CircutMaker one of the easest softwares with many new features on it .
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barrybear
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| 17 Feb 2003 12:48 |
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PCB wizard from new wave concepts is the new kid on the block. Available from maplin at £25 very simple to use.
Barrybear
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pool_77
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| 17 Feb 2003 21:07 |
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| Eagle has a good ratio features and simplicity.
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sortlaih
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| 18 Feb 2003 10:46 |
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| what about Multisim 2001 any one have any idea ....?
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pgo
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| 18 Feb 2003 15:02 |
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I am happy with the OrCAD release 9.2
It does the job
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tahiti
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| 18 Feb 2003 16:29 |
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AccelEDA did an excellent job for me. It's a very professional and stable tool.
Orcad is very good, but somehow not intuitive, so I never really learned getting around in it.
Older P*otel is junk, use it only if you have to. I've seen many projects fucked up by this wanna-be software. I've heard that newer versions are better (2000 and newer), but have no experience with em'
When P*otel bought Accel (terrible things do happen), they offered an upgrade to AccelEDA users to their junk product (P*otel) for a small price! 
Of course, needless to say, users were furious. Would you like an upgrade from Mercedes to Fiat for small money ?
After that they decided to market products separatelly. I don't know what's the status of AccelEDA now. Anobody has the end of story ?
tahiti
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huntmine
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| 18 Feb 2003 20:53 about multisim |
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| for me, multisim is the best PCB tool to use, it is easy to use and simulate all the lab stuff.. i found it to be very very useful
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huntmine
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| 18 Feb 2003 20:55 about pspice |
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| pspice is also a very good PSB tool to draw the schematic, it is even better than multisim.
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bobcat1
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| 22 Feb 2003 9:06 Until now i have used ORCAD & AccelEDA ! |
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It was a verery good combination but there was a small problem with
autometed ECO { You have to do it by hand }
I think AccelEDA was both by PCAD - not shoure
I know ORCAD sch verey well it's a verey good tool { capture only }
I have done some complicated design on VIEWLOGIC tool it is a good tool
for big company's but a crapy tool for the meduim or small designer
since it need a lot of support
I now learning to use POWERPCB i think AccelEDA is better but have no support since ver 15 so i quit using it
I have also use POWERLOGIC it's a sch design tool for POWERPCB it's
carp in comper to orcad but very good when using it with POWERPCB
bobi
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lvyinchuan
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| 22 Feb 2003 23:55 I use PROTEUS |
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| I know P*otel is populer.
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1234U
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| 23 Feb 2003 0:25 |
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If you intrest in the simulation go to =>OrCAD release 9.2
Other wise, PowerPCB
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atomic_ant
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| 23 Feb 2003 1:02 |
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| Don't go multisim for other than simulation
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830
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| 23 Feb 2003 6:19 |
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| Personally, I 'm used to P*otel only because I started from it, but it is not so good. I like OrCAD and Layout from cadence, but I am not familiar with it and it needs time.
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concat
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| 23 Feb 2003 7:13 |
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Dear everybody
In my opinion that Expedition 2002 is the best tool, it difficul to use but it is a very power full tool, beside that Cadence PSD 14.2 is also a geat tool, i have use it to layout laptop motherboard P4, It works very nice, and we will see PSD 15 in the near future.
Cheers
Concat
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eiferxia
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| 23 Feb 2003 7:23 |
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| Cadstar is very good in PCB design, but not as good in schematics. There is no simulation. You can use PSPICE to do simulation separately if you don't mind re-enter the schematic for simulation.
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Nick C.
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| 23 Feb 2003 10:03 |
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Take a look at AutoTRAX EDA. If nothing else, at
least the price is right - USD0.00
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rabbiteda
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| 23 Feb 2003 14:37 PCB |
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I think orcad is the vest for schematic and PADs powerpcb is the best for
layout! I now use the combination!
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netboy
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| 23 Feb 2003 16:08 |
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Hi All
My opinion is that the family multisim is the more it completes, so much in outlines and simulation as in the pcb drawing.
Cadence Orcad is very complicated
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lollobrigido
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| 24 Feb 2003 11:49 |
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I used for professional use, P*otel and O*cad.
What I found is that P. is better than O. It is much more complete and intuitive and bugless.
O. is not at P. leve but the price is higer!
I designed very complex boards by P*otel (up to 800 mixed traditional and smt parts & 12 layer) without any problem.
I designed very low complexity boards by O*cad (60 mixed parts and 2 layer) with a lot of problems.
I'm absolutely not happy working with O*cad, my fellows too!
G. L.
Lollo
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Lombard
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| 24 Feb 2003 20:33 |
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| am happy with the PCAD2002. the pcb is better than orcad layout.
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lennonwang
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| 26 Feb 2003 2:55 |
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| I think Powerlogic and PowerPCB are both very good for schematic and layout.In addition, Cadence PSD tool is also good for design.
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ramesh
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| 26 Feb 2003 7:13 |
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| Visula has now come out with "Board Designer" package which is an excellant for PCB designs involving complex Ball-Grid-Array foot-prints, river-routing, very quick and instantaneous Signal-Integrity, track-length, impedence, and temperature analysis and many more features.
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