HMI design?

HMI design?

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7rots51

Joined: 17 May 2002
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27 Jan 2003 12:11 HMI design?

Hi

I need help on design HMI software,What tools is available and if I want to connect it to internet or a LAN what can I do for developing it.

I need helps and fully commented help on this.

The hardware can be from a well known company or be custom design by myself.

What is effect of OPC in this design?

Regards

solvarg

Joined: 15 Feb 2002
Posts: 129
Location: Sweden

01 Feb 2003 17:01 Re: HMI design?

7rots51 wrote:

I think you should take a look at the WinCC package from Siemens. I think it contains all the things you´r asking for.

Regards

sklux

Joined: 30 Jan 2002
Posts: 58

02 Feb 2003 15:32

You have 2 solutions but it depends of what you mean by "design an HMI software".

There s software which manage the communication/graphical design. You have so only to design the graphical interfaces. The possibility of communicating with an ethernet is usualy possible but you need to know which protocol your going to use (it depend of the target PLC).

WinCC (Siemens), Monitor (Schneider), RSView (Allen Bradley),..

Of course those software are powerfull but $$$$$$

The second solution is buy a piece of software that only manage the communication.
Typically called "OPC server" it gives access to the objects of an industrial communication bus from Windows applications. You have to build the graphical part with C++, Visual Basic , Delphi.

monty_burns_007

Joined: 04 Jun 2001
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Location: Springfield

02 Feb 2003 16:18

What scada's do you own and use sklux ?

Monty Cool

tusco

Joined: 29 Nov 2002
Posts: 18

03 Feb 2003 16:42

I work at time on a project with a Siemens PLC( S7-400 ).
For the communication i used TCP-IP as a service on win 2000.
The HMI is in C++.

Regards

sklux

Joined: 30 Jan 2002
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03 Feb 2003 22:32

monty_burns_007 wrote:

What scada's do you own and use sklux ?

Monty Cool

None personnaly but so I m working close of the industrial world
I m used to have contact with this field.

7rots51

Joined: 17 May 2002
Posts: 1331
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05 Feb 2003 11:14

Hi
I do not know what to do .I hesistate to select which of these two way:

1: use C++B*uilder and some components to do it.
2: use commercially available softwares like as i*FIX,w*inCC,c*itect,sa*turn?

which way is better and more reliable ?
imagine that I am not depend on a hardware of a vendor.

bye

monty_burns_007

Joined: 04 Jun 2001
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Location: Springfield

09 Feb 2003 11:10

Use iFix man, it's the best.
Or if you have less money, try wonderware's Intouch.

Monty Cool

7rots51

Joined: 17 May 2002
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09 Feb 2003 23:11

hi

iFIX is expensive(5000$ to 10000$),depend on the tag numbers.

to monty_burns_007:

I have a demo version 2.5,But I did not find it attractive,Do you have teh demo of version 3.0?

Regards

Dimos

Joined: 01 Jan 1970
Posts: 17

27 Feb 2003 13:42

Hi all
If any one idea, how transfer WinCC tags to Oracle8i
w/o ODBC Question

tusco

Joined: 29 Nov 2002
Posts: 18

27 Feb 2003 15:53

You can used Visual C to write a DLL that comunicate with Oracle and WinCC. I did it some years ago.

Tusco

nflamble

Joined: 02 Apr 2002
Posts: 20

28 Feb 2003 7:45

I use WinCC from Siemens and i think it has a lot of advantages. You don't have to build your own routines in C++, or something else. But it's up to you to calculate the cheaper option for you. If you think it costs a lot of money less to build your own HMI ...

Cu,
NFlamble

7rots51

Joined: 17 May 2002
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28 Feb 2003 23:05

hello nflamble
I have some question on WINCC.

Can it support my own hardware if the hardware supports MODBUS protocol?

I want to use my custom cards ,and in some applications PLCs from vendors like as siemens ,omron,smart,....,Can WINCC support them for HMI design? does it have the modbus OPC?

Best Regards

nflamble

Joined: 02 Apr 2002
Posts: 20

03 Mar 2003 7:20

Hi !

It's difficult to say. There is a Modbus-Channel for WinCC but i'am not so sure it works for your hardware. It seems to be a serial Modbus-Driver.

Cu,
NFlamble

monty_burns_007

Joined: 04 Jun 2001
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Location: Springfield

03 Mar 2003 21:47

just use a commercial opc server for modbus.
WinCC is OPC client, so it works on all opc servers.
Opc server like the one from http://www.win-tech.com/
or the good opc's from Kepware: http://www.kepware.com/32bitdrv.html

nflamble

Joined: 02 Apr 2002
Posts: 20

11 Mar 2003 7:15

Yes, we also solved it with OPC. That was a very easy solution.

Cu,
NFlamble

Jorge

Joined: 22 Apr 2004
Posts: 3

22 Apr 2004 22:59 Re: HMI design?

--- ENGLISH ---
Shocked

You can send Tags from WinCC to others
Data Base like Oracle, SQL Server, SyBase, DB2, Informix,
FoxPro, Access, Internet, ODBC, Paradox, dBASE, etc etc etc
With my software. I'm Delphi Programer and WinCC / Step7 /
Microwin S7-200 / Logo
Info about me:
www.gratisweb.com/picol/wintag.htm
www.geocities.com/piolinpiolero/picol.html
--- SPANISH -----
Hola...Que tal.
Mi nombre es Jorge Vélez.
Deseo facilitarles la herramienta WinTag 3.0
que envía Tags de WinCC a otras Bases de Datos y a Internet
bájala grátis de www.gratisweb.com/picol/wintag.htm
-----------

Jorge

Joined: 22 Apr 2004
Posts: 3

22 Apr 2004 23:00 Re: HMI design?

--- ENGLISH ---
Shocked

You can send Tags from WinCC to others
Data Base like Oracle, SQL Server, SyBase, DB2, Informix,
FoxPro, Access, Internet, ODBC, Paradox, dBASE, etc etc etc
With my software. I'm Delphi Programer and WinCC / Step7 /
Microwin S7-200 / Logo
Info about me:
www.gratisweb.com/picol/wintag.htm
www.geocities.com/piolinpiolero/picol.html
--- SPANISH -----
Hola...Que tal.
Mi nombre es Jorge Vélez.
Deseo facilitarles la herramienta WinTag 3.0
que envía Tags de WinCC a otras Bases de Datos
como Oracle, SQL Server, SyBase, DB2, Informix,
FoxPro, Access, Internet, ODBC, Paradox, dBASE, etc etc etc
bájala grátis de www.gratisweb.com/picol/wintag.htm
-----------

asdruball

Joined: 29 Jun 2003
Posts: 3

29 Apr 2004 18:49 Re: HMI design?

hola Jorge.

the link is broken, but, only 5 tag's ?
I think that is not correct to give links of these...

"""...............deberá Suscribirse y dar un aporte de 120 dólares, enviándome su solicitud para adquirir .................."""

you know what is sharing ?????

asdruball

monty_burns_007

Joined: 04 Jun 2001
Posts: 76
Helped: 1
Location: Springfield

29 May 2004 11:11 Re: HMI design?

Does anyone have experience with the webservers from intellution ?
I've got iWebserver 2.0 (1999) for iFix x.x and it works great.
But is there also a webserver for the older Fix32 v.7.0 scada software ?

Monty Cool

ulkucu_hareket

Joined: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 65
Helped: 1

30 May 2007 1:42 Re: HMI design?

Jorge wrote:

--- ENGLISH ---
Shocked

You can send Tags from WinCC to others
Data Base like Oracle, SQL Server, SyBase, DB2, Informix,
FoxPro, Access, Internet, ODBC, Paradox, dBASE, etc etc etc
With my software. I'm Delphi Programer and WinCC / Step7 /
Microwin S7-200 / Logo
Info about me:
www.gratisweb.com/picol/wintag.htm
www.geocities.com/piolinpiolero/picol.html
--- SPANISH -----
Hola...Que tal.
Mi nombre es Jorge Vélez.
Deseo facilitarles la herramienta WinTag 3.0
que envía Tags de WinCC a otras Bases de Datos
como Oracle, SQL Server, SyBase, DB2, Informix,
FoxPro, Access, Internet, ODBC, Paradox, dBASE, etc etc etc
bájala grátis de www.gratisweb.com/picol/wintag.htm
-----------

unfortunately links are dead:cry:

trendafil

Joined: 19 Jun 2007
Posts: 2

19 Jun 2007 8:37 Re: HMI design?

WinCC is good chice.

montri

Joined: 11 Aug 2007
Posts: 3

11 Aug 2007 8:05 Re: HMI design?

How can I get software intouch? I'm a beginer , I would like to learn more.

tnk786

Joined: 30 Aug 2007
Posts: 2

04 Sep 2007 22:02 HMI design?

Intouch is not a freeware. You cannot get a trial version as there is a dongle key with the software, a hard key.

For learners, i would suggest using WinCC if there is a trial version available

fakhur2000

Joined: 13 Jun 2008
Posts: 2

20 Jun 2008 8:56 Re: HMI design?

can any body please tell me how to use pc monitor as an HMI screen .Thanks.

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