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x3.exe



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Post03 Nov 2009 18:25   

10M PC to microcontroller cabled connection


Dear all,

Does anyone know how to interface uC to PC over 10m distance, with data rates up to 1Mbitps?

looking forward to your replies.
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Post03 Nov 2009 18:48   

Re: 10M PC to microcontroller cabled connection


Might be a little overkill but LVDS would work.

See this for speed vs. distance: http://pdfserv.maxim-ic.com/en/an/AN1856.pdf - youd be looking at anywhere between 500-600Mbps.

You can buy really simple driver/reciever chips that would be good for serial connections.
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x3.exe



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Post03 Nov 2009 19:25   

Re: 10M PC to microcontroller cabled connection


Forgot to mention that data is output from uC through UART. As far as I know, for RS232 cables, length of the cable should be very short in order to operate at 1Mbps. For USB, maximum cable length is 5m. However, I have read that there are some USB active extension cables, which have built-in repeaters or something. However, I am not sure whether it will provide a reliable communication link between computer and microcontroller. Does anyone have any experience in using USB extension cables with microcontrollers?
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Post04 Nov 2009 0:09   

Re: 10M PC to microcontroller cabled connection


Hi x3.exe,

Sorry I can't tell you much about USB repeaters, but acctually when I mentioned LVDS I was thinking of a serial connection like you mentioned.

Now I have never done this but I am *pretty sure* you could use a couple of these to 'jump' the 10m gap between your uC and your PC: http://www.national.com/mpf/DS/DS90LV019.html

I would think it would be a simple matter of providing them power then just connecting the appropirate Tx/Rx of your serial ports to the inputs/outputs and running some cheap twisted pair inbetween.

Those chips are about £2 each, so it might be a fair bit cheaper than using USB.

Good luck anyway with whatever you go with!
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Post04 Nov 2009 13:09   

10M PC to microcontroller cabled connection


What about RS485? You can get RS232 to RS485 converters which will handle 1Mbit/sec (e.g. Amplicon 485HF9) which plug directly into an existing serial port, or you can get the bare RS485 transceivers (e.g. Maxim MAX3080 family) for integrating onto your own PCB.
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