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bee
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 29 Oct 2009 19:52 Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO?
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saeddawoud
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29 Oct 2009 20:16 Re: Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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| bee wrote: |
Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO?
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Because in MISO system the transmitted power is divided among all transmit antennas. Usually space-time codes are used to over come this problem.
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29 Oct 2009 22:44 Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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| thanks for your reply. But how does the space-time codes help to over come this issue?
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saeddawoud
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29 Oct 2009 22:51 Re: Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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| bee wrote: |
| thanks for your reply. But how does the space-time codes help to over come this issue? |
Actually, I don't have the details, but space-time coding is essentially channel coding and transmit diversity, where the codes are spread in space and in time, i.e.: 2-D code. So, you may expect additional gain from this process.
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mohamed_bakr
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04 Nov 2009 16:52 Re: Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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Actually,
Increasing receiving antennas provide diversity gain which benefits in decreasing the BER Curve slope. However, space time codes which needs the use of more than one Transmitting antenna provide shifting BER Curve to left which also, can be considered as a benefit.
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lequangvu710
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06 Nov 2009 18:37 Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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MISO use multiple transmit antenna, it provides full diversity gain. Example, Space time block codes, with Alamouti scheme - 2 transmit antenna and n receive antenna.
MISO's better than SIMO!
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saeddawoud
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06 Nov 2009 19:03 Re: Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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| ...MISO's better than SIMO! |
Why is that? Explain to us please?
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lequangvu710
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07 Nov 2009 8:30 Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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What is MISO and SIMO?
MISO: Multiple input and single output, it's mean multiple transmit antennas and single receive antenna.
SIMO: Single input and multiple output, it's mean single transmit antenna and multiple receive antennas.
You know, Space - Time Coding is a type of code to increase the channel capacity or provide the diversity gain, which we want to use, we must have at least 2 transmit antennas.
With 1 transmit antenna we can't use space-time coding for the channel.
So, I really believe that MISO system is better than SIMO system!
Added after 5 hours 42 minutes:
My opinion is only right in case of using Space-time coding! ^^.
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saeddawoud
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07 Nov 2009 12:17 Re: Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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| lequangvu710 wrote: |
What is MISO and SIMO?
MISO: Multiple input and single output, it's mean multiple transmit antennas and single receive antenna.
SIMO: Single input and multiple output, it's mean single transmit antenna and multiple receive antennas.
You know, Space - Time Coding is a type of code to increase the channel capacity or provide the diversity gain, which we want to use, we must have at least 2 transmit antennas.
With 1 transmit antenna we can't use space-time coding for the channel.
So, I really believe that MISO system is better than SIMO system!
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My opinion is only right in case of using Space-time coding! ^^. |
As I know, transmit diversity with space time coding has the same performance as recieve diversity, in terms of diversity gain, i.e.: the slope of BER vs. SNR. Now if you talk about the possibility of increasing the capacity of the channel in transmit diversity, by using spatial multiplexing, this is a different story.
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lequangvu710
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07 Nov 2009 12:36 Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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You was right!
But in this case, you should know:
- I just said about SIMO and MISO!
- I introduced about STC.
You didn't understand, so I think you should read what I said clearly!
If we use STC, certainly SIMO can not be used.
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saeddawoud
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07 Nov 2009 15:15 Re: Why is SIMO BER performance is better than MISO? |
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| lequangvu710 wrote: |
You was right!
But in this case, you should know:
- I just said about SIMO and MISO!
- I introduced about STC.
You didn't understand, so I think you should read what I said clearly!
If we use STC, certainly SIMO can not be used. |
Dear lequangvu710,
I didn't misunderstand you, all what I wanted to say is that, STC used in transmit diversity to recover the average SNR loss, compared to a system with recieve diversity. The loss will be 10\,log_{10}L_t, where L_t is the number of transmit antnnas, because the transmitted power is divided among the transmit antennas.
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