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peterlau1984



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Post07 Jan 2009 2:18   

Why simulation result is so different with my spec. ??


Dear all,
I designed a cascode current mirror with the relation
rout = gm4*ro4*ro2= 10 Mohm.

However, I got the simulation result that gm was 1 mA/V and ro2, ro4 was about 1 Kohm from "DC opation points" of Spectre , after runing dc analysis. The result of rout is apparently much less than my specification.

Why would this come out?
Is there anything wrong with my simulation??
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LvW



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Post07 Jan 2009 10:34   

Re: Why simulation result is so different with my spec. ??


peterlau1984 wrote:
Dear all,
I designed a cascode current mirror with the relation
rout = gm4*ro4*ro2= 10 Mohm.

However, I got the simulation result that gm was 1 mA/V and ro2, ro4 was about 1 Kohm from "DC opation points" of Spectre , after runing dc analysis. The result of rout is apparently much less than my specification.
Why would this come out?
Is there anything wrong with my simulation??


I´m not familiar with SPECTRE, however, for each simulator there are severe differences between dc and ac analyses (of course !!) as far as resistances are concerned. I suppose, you are interested in a dynamic/differential rout of several Mohms. But the dc analysis gives you information only about dc properties.
Try to verify the value of rout via an ac analysis.
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DenisMark



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Post11 Jan 2009 6:06   

Why simulation result is so different with my spec. ??


The same thing you can also check by DC sweep analysis by sweeping of output voltage (Rout=1/deriv(Iout)).
Do you sure that you saw "gds" parameter in "DC operation point"? May be you have been confised by "ron" which is output resistance in triode region?
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