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blueroomelectronics

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08 Jan 2009 14:58 All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

People buy kits for the fun of building them. My Junebug was designed as more than just another decent programmer but also includes a simple tutor for getting to grips with PICs. We also have a couple of free newsletters with tutorials for the kit called JPUG.

The kits sell fine. Thanks for asking.

jhanus

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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Location: Croatia

08 Jan 2009 19:44 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

blueroomelectronics, I'll be honest with you, I really don't care how well your sales are going, in fact I really hope that you earn, because you really look like you like doing what you are doing. Today, there are not many people who have passion for anything.

What troubles me is funnypd and you when you simply rush in to other people threads, with no consideration, no shame.

Sell, sell, sell as much you like, but on your own thread.
That's it, nothing more and this goes more to funnypd than you.

gogo2520

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05 Feb 2009 5:42 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

Hello
Ya I mostly read the forms. I Learn more with my mouth shut.
You keep pushing the PICKIT-2 clone what about the icd adapter you need for debuggingr the low pin count pic's, like 16F628A & 48A's.
Hey look at me two post in one year. ah I should of used my other user name.
gogo

mvs sarma

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05 Feb 2009 7:43 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

jhanus wrote:

In any society, we find many types of people. Jhanus and me may like to design our own ( really are we doing it, other than using a published schematic), and make it to derive experience and satisfaction.
The other type wants to concentrate on programming and they are still capable of assembling a board in one is there, so I suppose these kits are for those. Then the third type, they are programmers who don't want to loose time , so they prefer to go for ready built and sold off the shelf.

Thus, my personal opinion is that we need not criticize even if we don't like the other kind of providers, as the society is complex.

I only earnestly hope that Jhanus gets my viewpoint, leave alone my lack of expression.

Thus let us concentrate on the hard ware development as per our taste, leaving others chances to use semi or full built kis or microchip manufactured items as per ones own liking. this forum is neither my own, and we share our opinions. and try to learn from others as in any society, there is a lot to learn.

as such we have not and can not prevent any other person to post across what we write, thus perhaps we need not be furious on that whether Funnynypd, or mvs sarma, or blueroom writes what he feels across where we started a post. Perhaps the site administration agrees with me. if we don't like let us ignore that post. and go ahead sharing with selective few whose posts we perhaps may like because of wavelength matching.
Jhanus, please don't be angry on me. for opening my mind. Otherwise, we are loosing our time of design and discussion of the subject, perhaps.

Sarma

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jhanus

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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05 Feb 2009 8:37 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

mvs sarma wrote:

In any society, we find many types of people. Jhanus amd me may like to design our own ( really are doing it, other than using a published schematic), and make it to derive experience ands satisfaction.
The other type wants to concentrate on programming and they are still capable of assembling a board in one is there, so I suppose these kits are for those. Then the third type, they are programmers who don't want to loose time , so they prefer to go for ready built and sold off the shelf.

Thus, my personal opinion is that we need criticize even if we don't like the other kind of providers, as the society is complex.

I only earnestly hope that Jhanus gets my viewpoint, leave alone my lack of expression.

Thus let us concentrate on the hard ware development as per our taste, leaving others chances to use semi or full built kis or microchip manufactured items as per ones own liking. this forum is neither my own, and we share our opinions. and try to learn from others as in any society, there is a lot to learn.

as such we have not and can not prevent any other person to post across what we write, thus perhaps we need not be furious on that whether Funnynypd, or mvs sarma, or blueroom writes what he feels across where we started a post. Perhaps the site administration agrees with me. if we don't like let us ignore that post. and go ahead sharing with selective few whose posts we perhaps may like because of wavelength matching.
Jhanus, please do't be angry on me. for opening my mind. Otherwise, we are loosing our time of design and discussion of the subject, perhaps.

Sarma

Why should I be angry if someone express their opinion?, in fact I agree with you, everyone should express their selfs, but express not spam.
That is a big difference.

How can one post be answer to hundreds of questions or topics, it can not, post like:"we inserted new function's in our development board" are not, I repeat are NOT expressions of someones mind, they are pure spam.
When you put days, weeks, months , years in your garden, do you allow other people to walk over it, and use it as normal sidewalk, no you don't, that is why I don't want to have other people spam(foot) in my mouth.

I hope that you can see my point of view and are not offended by it.

Sillo

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14 Feb 2009 1:54 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

jhanus

I suppose a lot of people (blue green yellow = joker) don't appreciate something if they get it for free I am sure they grew up getting everything for free or else cried till they got it - I live in a third world country a pickit 2 cost anything from R.650.00 rands or more the exchange is 10 to one, this is my hobby I have kids wife etc. school fees for my son is R350.00 a month etc. SO THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORT I REALLY APPRECIATE IT maybe if one is too blue you dont like the other colours in life CHEERS thnk you again

mvs sarma

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14 Feb 2009 3:03 All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

in fact nothing comes free in any society, unless some one else pays for it. cost of set of loose parts and time and effort to construct and make it work, on the overall is very much on higher side as compared to cost of pickit2. the pickit2 even though quoted at $34.99 would cost you much more as taxes and international courier to be added.

let us understand that these are alternatives. Even if appears the blue is costly, one may not forget that it comes with additional chip and other support material assembled to enable learn tutorials with out additional demo board that microchip supplies.

I am of personal opinion that there is no point in ridiculing some one . if we dont need we need not purchase. and spend our bucks the way we want.!!

Sillo

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14 Feb 2009 12:11 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

I am of the opinion jhanus spent his time at no cost to help others for "free?" and to fill his board with ads of their product is not "cool" - All of the product/problems on these boards can be purchased/solved if you have enough $ what's the point? - I did not see a posting buy a pick2 kit for free?

jhanus

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14 Feb 2009 17:07 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

Sillo wrote:

You are welcome, thank you for speaking out your mind. They must understand their wrongdoings.
It really isn't nice of them and they definitely don't earn any credits like that in my book, I also hope others see yours and mine point of view.

I'll will continue to upload usefull stuff to help others, as others helped me in my life, so I thank them this way.

yus

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15 Feb 2009 14:21 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

I was also able to make a PICkit2 clone.
All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

*not capable of "programmer-to-go" function due to the absent of those two eeproms

thanks to Microchip for providing the complete schematic of their PICkit2 programmer. Very Happy

(and also the .hex file for the 18f2550)

by the way, anyone have tried/successfully made a PICkit3 ?

jhanus

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15 Feb 2009 14:46 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

yus wrote:

I was also able to make a PICkit2 clone.
All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

*not capable of "programmer-to-go" function due to the absent of those two eeproms

thanks to Microchip for providing the complete schematic of their PICkit2 programmer. Very Happy

(and also the .hex file for the 18f2550)

by the way, anyone have tried/successfully made a PICkit3 ?

Congrats!, it looks great.
Is it fragile?!, maybe somekind of a case to protect it.

yus

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16 Feb 2009 13:59 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

I cannot find a case that can fit on my board, so I just let it open.
and you're right, it seems not to be a durable programmer. Sad

But it looks nice.. it's considerably neat. Very Happy

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Cassiano

Joined: 15 Feb 2009
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17 Feb 2009 10:48 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

I not find hex pickit2. Help me please.

Thanks

jhanus

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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Location: Croatia

17 Feb 2009 10:57 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

Cassiano wrote:

I not find hex pickit2. Help me please.

Thanks

First post, download, unrar, open folder: "firmware", hex inside.

morjuan

Joined: 14 Nov 2006
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17 Feb 2009 22:31 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

Where is the link to download this project?

jhanus

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17 Feb 2009 23:23 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

morjuan wrote:

Where is the link to download this project?

In the bottom of the first post of the thread you are just writing in.
(http://www.edaboard.com/ftopic334503.html).

masood_ahm

Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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24 Feb 2009 18:56 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

what does Tipkalo and elko mean ... in the parts list "BOM.txt" file

jhanus

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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24 Feb 2009 19:04 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

masood_ahm wrote:

what does Tipkalo and elko mean ... in the parts list "BOM.txt" file

Tipkalo == push-button
elko == electrolytic capacitor(type of cap)

masood_ahm

Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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26 Feb 2009 16:39 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

(dont mind if this sounds a stupid question because i m new to this) ..
can you please tell me the size of your PCB because took print out of "PicKit2-1-mod.pdf" file in the "SCH_PCB_original" folder and it looks too small..

jhanus

Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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26 Feb 2009 17:58 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

masood_ahm wrote:

I gave it to my friend, I'll ask him to measure it.
Download Eagle and run pcb file, there should me pcb size values.

masood_ahm

Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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04 Mar 2009 17:53 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

ok i know using original PICkit2 to program microcontrolors that doesnt belong to microchip.is illegal.. but this circuit is not the original PICKit2 ...using this for others should not be illegal .. so my question is ..by any chance ..can this programmer be used for AVR microcontrolors

mvs sarma

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04 Mar 2009 19:42 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

masood_ahm wrote:

as Microchip have released the full documentation, if you want to use part of it to serve your cause may not be illegal.
illogical you mean ?
However, coming to using PICKIT2 for programming AVr devices, may be , you have to write appropriate drivers and you can use after testing your drivers.

funnynypd

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04 Jul 2009 12:47 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

Not sure it got enough pins for the AVR family.

Here is a tutorial on understanding PICKit 2 hardware:
http://augroups.blogspot.com/2009/05/understanding-microchip-pickit-2-rev.html

DIY PICKit 2 are now available at our on-line store:
http://www.auelectronics.com/products/hardware/cb0703.html

Fully assemblied units are also available:
All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

http://www.auelectronics.com/products/system/bb0703.html

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chrisp2

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04 Jul 2009 14:47 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

@Yus

Did you consider Alexan commercial for the case? Ther quite cheap.

Gents

Seems its good to have alternative DIY kit for those dont have the time to make thier own board or etch.Or those who like it with color.

But I will agree with Jhanus, we are here because we dont have money to spend if we do, we wont be here in the first place. Since I can do etching & soldering your effort is greatly appreciated.

But for the sales men here.... what really annoy me is the pushy approach of endorsing thier product.

Questions sometimes answered half heartedly because products are being injected....also those who like to contribute are discourage to share due to the fact that it is readily available in the market.

If I may suugest have a single topic for all of the advertisement then if you want to plug your product just provide links....

Hope this is fair enough to everybody...reading ads on threads is really a destruction for me. let us leave the threads for hobbyist, to those who do not have money only time.

codewiz

Joined: 14 Sep 2008
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04 Jul 2009 18:52 All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

The primary reason we come to such forum is to get help and help others. Thanks jhanus. i'll be building this programmer shortly. if i may ask, can i use jdm programmer with winpic for the 18f2550? it's functional and have used it to programme good number of pic chips except 18f2550.

mvs sarma

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05 Jul 2009 13:47 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

codewiz wrote:

you can use the DL4YHF programmer with external power supply and works well even for PIC18F2550
perhaps you need to use winpic800 software

x_dadu

Joined: 23 Aug 2009
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11 Sep 2009 9:59 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

what about the "small additional board" for 3,3v pic's programming ! I need for dspic33 .

mvs sarma

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11 Sep 2009 11:15 Re: All_you_need_to_build_PicKit_2

x_dadu wrote:

what about the "small additional board" for 3,3v pic's programming ! I need for dspic33 .

a similar arrangement for 3.3V working has been shown by Bill in his Junebug assembly manual and also by Sizilva at www.mcuhobby.com

But you need to be careful not to damage the chip by inappropriate design.
the best appears to be to follow programming consideration for the chip under concern from the application notes and The Ds PIC33 series from ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/70152C.pdf