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chandregowda



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Post22 Aug 2008 10:10   To Buy: RF and antenna sim tools

hi,

we are buying few RF and Antenna tools. we work on
RF Active- Amplifiers, RF passive-couplers/power dividers
RF filters, mixers, LNAs, TMA/TMB
Also on Antennas.....Base station antenna/IBS/Space antennas

i want ur help in finding the best fit for our company.

ADS(2D ckt simulation tool)- AMDS/EMDS (3D antenna tool)
Microwave office
Ansoft Designer (2D) - HFSS (3D-tool)
CST design- Microwave CST studio
Sonnet suite professional
IE3D-Concerto


how can we differentiate between ADS/Microwave office/Ansoft designer
also b/w AMDS/HFSS/Microwave CST//IE3D?


also help me in finding any of the Distributors in Bengaluru/Bangalore or any other parts in India..........


thank you in advance.......


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e_m_c



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Post28 Aug 2008 17:09   Re: To Buy: RF and antenna sim tools

Add to the review-list for antennas following product - EMC Studio - 3D Full-Wave MoM.
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madengr



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Post28 Aug 2008 22:10   Re: To Buy: RF and antenna sim tools

You will probably get many responses in this thread such as "ADS rulez! Rock and Roll!"

If you are seriously going to purchase any of these tools the companies should be happy to give you 1 month demo licenses. I would put together a series of simple circuits, go through the getting started guides, then simulate the circuits in each to compare the results and how easy it was to get them. You should get nearly the same results, just how easy was it to get there.

Maybe try:
Small signal amplifier (tests linear simulator, tuning, and layout)
Mixer (tests HB simulator with power sweeps, intercept points, etc..)
Oscillator (tests HB phase noise analysis and start-up with transient simulator)
Simple digital divider (really stresses HB and transient simulator convergence)
Diode detector (this simple circuit can test Linear, HB, transient, and even envelope)
Planar coupled line filter (tests microstrip models and planar EM)
Patch antenna (tests far field computations of planar EM)

Just for planar software you have to choose between gridded, shielded analysis (Sonnet, AWR EMSight) and gridless, unshielded (Momentum, AWR AXIEM). The former possibly better for high dynamic range such as filters, and the latter for antennas.

With 3D you have time and frequency domain codes. HFSS is frequency domain. CST has both. Maybe test a patch antenna (to compare to planar simulators), narrowband waveguide filter or resonator, and a wideband antenna such as a log periodic dipole array.

You may want a system level tool too such as AWR VSS.

This may seem like allot of work but if you are going to spend allot of money it should be done.

Me? I like Microwave Office, Sonnet, and CST. With those you have all bases covered and they can all use Microwave Office as a front-end.
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chandregowda



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Post29 Aug 2008 12:50   Re: To Buy: RF and antenna sim tools

hi,

you helped me!

i have got Free version Sonnet Lite 11, also getting demo versions of other 2D/3D software. will try out all possible simulations before buying....


thank you
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Manjunatha_hv



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Post29 Aug 2008 17:07   Re: To Buy: RF and antenna sim tools

Hello ChandreGowda,


ICON Design Automation is the distributor for
AWR MWO, VSS, etc
Sonnet em sauite
Vector Fields-Concerto
Nuhertz Filter Solution products in India


Contact them at sales(at)icon-dapl.com
http://www.icon-dapl.com/content/products_MicrowaveEDA.html



---manju---
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chandregowda



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Post01 Sep 2008 4:36   Re: To Buy: RF and antenna sim tools

hi,

thanks a lot


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Manjunatha_hv



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Post02 Sep 2008 7:47   Re: To Buy: RF and antenna sim tools

Hello chandregowda,

Which Organisation you work for in Bangalore?
provide your email ID....

In case if you want to contact
my email ID manjunatha_hv(at)ieee.org



---manju---
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chandregowda



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Post02 Sep 2008 10:30   Re: To Buy: RF and antenna sim tools

hi,

my mail id is

tronicschandru(at)gmail.com
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ricy



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Post04 Sep 2008 12:25   Re: To Buy: RF and antenna sim tools

Our company uses Semcad (www.semcad.com). Maybe its on interrest for you?
It's also possible to import CAD files from print layouts (Gerber) and circuits from SPICE.
best: Ricy
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chandregowda



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Post04 Sep 2008 12:57   Re: To Buy: RF and antenna sim tools

hi,

ofcourse, this SEMCAD is also equally good for simulations

thank you
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