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majnoon
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 17 Jun 2008 16:11 Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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If it goes through could very well mean end of line for PowerPCB PADS and even DX Designer formerly View Logic.
http://cadence.com/company/newsroom/press_releases/pr.aspx?xml=061708_announcement&lid=cdn_pr
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gliss
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| 17 Jun 2008 16:40 Re: Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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| Mentor is resisting. But they may not be able to hold out.
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majnoon
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| 17 Jun 2008 16:43 Re: Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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I agree,
their shareholders must be upset after losing 30% on original May offer.
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funnynypd
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| 17 Jun 2008 19:25 Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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| wow. Cadence is almost out of business a while ago. Where do they get all the cash to buy Mentor graphics?
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whiplash
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| 17 Jun 2008 20:18 Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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| I like this from a user point of view, but I hate it from a business point of view. Prices will shoot up and that's never good for business.
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gliss
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| 17 Jun 2008 21:50 Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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| As a user you like Cadence tools more than Mentor tools? But how long will it take them to integrate? And what will be the result?
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majnoon
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| 17 Jun 2008 22:06 Re: Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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| As a user you like Cadence tools more than Mentor tools? But how long will it take them to integrate? And what will be the result |
Cadence has put lots of $ into developing Allegro tool set, it wont destroy it.
If anything they add some features of Expedition to Allegro and as I said earlier they would get rid of PADS and then later maybe Expedition.
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gliss
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| 17 Jun 2008 23:48 Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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I can understand why you don't like PADS and Expedition but I don't understand why you want them to go away. If you don't like them, don't use them, right?
Added after 41 seconds:
Update: Mentor is refusing the buyout. Saying Cadence offer is too low.
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208700211
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funnynypd
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| 17 Jun 2008 23:55 Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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| so, if cadence offer more money, will they sell the company?
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majnoon
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| 18 Jun 2008 1:31 Re: Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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| I can understand why you don't like PADS and Expedition but I don't understand why you want them to go away. If you don't like them, don't use them, right? |
Is not that if I like them or not. More often than not as a designer you end up to work for company that has this tool rather than other one. So is not just stop using an inferior tool as PADS is and start to use another one. I like Expedition it was called Veribest before Mentor bought them and is very capable tool.
Cadence has done this to OrCAD Layout and drop this tool.
If they succeed to buy Mentor I see no reason for them to keep PADS.
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kender
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| 18 Jun 2008 4:58 Re: Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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| gliss wrote: |
| But how long will it take them to integrate [Cadence and Mentor]? |
They integrate fairly well already. For instance a huge number of professional PCB designers use OrCAD Capture with PADS layout.
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gliss
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| 18 Jun 2008 14:50 Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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| I'm an ASIC designer, so I'm looking at this from an ASIC design tools point of view. And I don't see the benefit. The Mentor test and verification tools like TestKompress and Calibre are good at their jobs. Meanwhile for Cadence, Encounter is leading it's class and I was hoping to see Mentor add another challenger with their acquisition of Sierra and the Olympus tool. You know that the Encounter license costs about $1 Million?? We need MORE competition.
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whiplash
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| 18 Jun 2008 15:42 Re: Cadence Bid to Buy Mentor |
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| gliss wrote: |
| But how long will it take them to integrate [Cadence and Mentor]? |
They integrate fairly well already. For instance a huge number of professional PCB designers use OrCAD Capture with PADS layout. |
And even DxDesigner can be used with Allegro.
This issue in integration will be from a schematic and layout point of view if they drop certain suites. For example, supporting PADS layouts if they flush the tool. They do not convert well to Expedition or Allegro. Same for schematics if they drop OrCAD or DxDesigner.
in any case...should be interesting.
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