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shahid78



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Post12 May 2008 18:38   S parameters measured by network analyzer

i am a bit confused on interpreting the scattering parameter results shown by network analyzer

for example the S11 shown by network analyzer for any antenna is in dB.

now if i want to calculate the abosulte values which formula should i use

S11(dB)=20 log ( S11)

or

S11(dB)=10 log (S11)


any help will be highly appreciated

regards
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Phytech



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Post16 May 2008 0:04   S parameters measured by network analyzer

The first one
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citizen



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Post19 May 2008 7:55   Re: S parameters measured by network analyzer

thank you,
i was also have this doubt .
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akedar



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Post19 May 2008 8:15   S parameters measured by network analyzer

well S11 is measuring in terms of power so u have to take 10 log formula

because S=a/b
where a nd b are incident and reflected power waves

u can refer to manual it will further confirm
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Slayerza



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Post25 May 2008 20:53   Re: S parameters measured by network analyzer

I agree since the parameters are measured as power levels it should be the 10log variant. This can easily be derived from the definition of a decibel.

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Slayer
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loucy



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Post27 May 2008 21:50   Re: S parameters measured by network analyzer

S-parameter is complex (magnitude and phase) so it cotains more information than the power ratio. In any case, even if you define it as a RATIO of two powers, it doesn't have the unit of power. 10Log is incorrect.
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sasaberali



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Post28 May 2008 9:39   Re: S parameters measured by network analyzer

hi
20×log10×s11=s11(db)
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