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nicita



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Post05 May 2008 13:44   RF filter design

Hi,
can someone help me with some helpful information about rf filter design? the frequency that I need to use is 60 GHz. I know that the are some good books, as Mathei - Microwave filters,Impedance matching and coupling structures, but I need something that come directly from people that had experiences in this topic!!
I would like to know some practical advantages and drawbacks related to the design of such filters!!
Thanks a lot!!
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rosaeidi



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Post05 May 2008 13:57   RF filter design

Hi

I have designed some rf filters with maximum frequency of 2.5 GHz. What is the type of your desired filter?
What is your technology?


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Amrsfmt



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Post05 May 2008 14:06   RF filter design

Hi,

you mean active filter design or you mean microstrip filter design.

please clarify.

regards
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nicita



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Post05 May 2008 14:10   RF filter design

Hi Amrsfmt,

You're right I wasn't clear, I mean microstrip filter.
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Amrsfmt



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Post05 May 2008 17:00   RF filter design

The best I can tell you can check the Pozar's book.
"Microwave Engineering".

You can use HFSS for analysis or go directly to Ansoft Designer for design.

You can check http://www.emtalk.com/tutorials.htm

Another thing you need to do search for substrate materials. Since you are targeting a very high frequency you might need to get a low loss substrate.

I'm also interested in the same topic so if you can share your knowledge this would be great.

regards
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spminn



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Post06 May 2008 4:54   Re: RF filter design

AT 60 GHz, you cannot use standard FR-4 (too lossy). Also, microstrip is not the way to go at such high frequencies. You should consider coplanar waveguide structures. Most on-chip T-lines at 60GHz are coplanar stripline structures. A good reference for on-chip transmission lines is: "On-chip interconnect for mm-wave applications using an all-copper technology and wavelength reduction" by John Long (ISSCC paper)
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tshah



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Post06 May 2008 5:14   Re: RF filter design

Hi nicita,

You can refer to this book. A very good reference:
Filters for rf/microwave applications : M. J. lancaster

Also, I would like to request if someone can post this paper. "On-chip interconnect for mm-wave applications using an all-copper technology and wavelength reduction" by John Long (ISSCC paper) "

Thanks
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Amrsfmt



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Post06 May 2008 8:37   Re: RF filter design

Nice Paper.


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james cook



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Post06 May 2008 12:32   RF filter design

It should be the book "Microstrip Filters for RF/Microwave Applications.' which you can download from internet for freee. Very good book
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DDavid



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Post06 May 2008 15:12   Re: RF filter design

Hi

attach below a few papers that are talk about filter design (rf & microwave)

David



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kpcheah



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Post11 May 2008 18:44   Re: RF filter design

i need to design microstript filter also...can anyone help???any good book/article/website???thx a lot
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tshah



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Post12 May 2008 21:31   Re: RF filter design

Hi Ddavid,

Can you give me information about writer of the book which you uploaded?

Also, nicita, if you are designing a filter for 60 GHz frequency, it is not rf filter. Frquencies more than 30 GHz fall in the millimeter range and advantage of such design is that you can devlop a mulchip modules which can have a very compact design. Especially, it is useful in radio engineering field. These kind of designs can simplify overall topology.

Thanks

Added after 1 minutes:

for microstrip filter good book is of

"lancaster" "filters for rf/microwave applications"

Thanks
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mallelauma



Joined: 25 Mar 2008
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Post13 May 2008 13:06   Re: RF filter design

hello kpcheah
u can use the book as


"microstrip filters for rf/microwave applications" by "lancaster"

but for what frequencies u want to design depending on that u have to select the type of filter.
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toney



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Post19 May 2008 5:58   Re: RF filter design

I also Study filter,but I have not enoughresource.
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james cook



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Post19 May 2008 14:02   RF filter design

At 60 Ghz, you can only use rogers for substrate which is restricted in many countries. whats the application of your filter ? in radar?
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