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spweda



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Post20 Dec 2002 23:33   8 bit pseudcolor and 24 bit support in linux

Hi,

If it possible to support 8 bit pseudcolor and 24 bit true color simultaneously in linux? Since some EDA only supports 8 bit display, one way to solve this problem is to start another Xserver in 8 bit mode, but I would like to search for a better solution.

Thanx
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Nobody



Joined: 04 Oct 2001
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Location: Formosa


Post21 Dec 2002 5:06   

i have the same problem . even worse is that some windows manager flash the color around the focus xwindow's outline frame . that make me feel un-comfotable .
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lovanca



Joined: 20 Dec 2002
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Post08 Jan 2003 12:14   

I don't think it would be possible to have two X servers running at the same time on a single Linux machine. Maybe if you really want to do that, you can try running several Linux machines at the same time using UML but I do not know anything about that.

Maybe a more pragmatic question is : do someone knows a window manager or a theme of a window manager, which does not flash even if you are running a Xserver in 8bit mode ?
I would be very interested by the answer...

Lovanca.
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tlihu



Joined: 02 Jan 2002
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Post08 Jan 2003 12:28   

As far as I know, this problem can be addressed in two ways:

Hardware - There are few cards do support visual overlay under certain conditions. Please check xfree86.org for details.

Software - Using VNC. When starting VNC server on the LINUX, add option -cc 3. And then you can use VNC Viewer on the same LINUX machine to run the very apps. The penalty, of course, is degradation in overall performance.

Good luck!
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kittykat77



Joined: 27 Mar 2002
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Post09 Jan 2003 5:26   

lovanca wrote:
I don't think it would be possible to have two X servers running at the same time on a single Linux machine. Maybe if you really want to do that, you can try running several Linux machines at the same time using UML but I do not know anything about that.

Lovanca.


Yes, it is possible to run several X servers on a single Linux machine. You'll have to log in several times :

My setup :

First at the console prompt :
startx -- -bpp 32
The above will start the X server in truecolor mode

Then if you really need application at 8-bit mode, type
ctrl-alt-F2
The above will get you to another login console which you will login and type
startx -- -bpp 8 :1
The above will open another X-session at the :1

You can change between sessions by typing "ctrl-alt-F7" (truecolor) and "ctrl-alt-F8" (8-bit mode)

Of course your XF86Config file must be configured to run 8 and 32 bit. Mine has
8,16 and 32

Hope this helps...
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spweda



Joined: 28 Jun 2001
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Post14 Jan 2003 5:19   

Yes. It is possible to open two X servers in Linux environment. I used the Red Hat Linux 7.2.

If your video card support overlay mode, you could add Option "Overlay" in the
X86 configuration file. However, this kind video card costs at least $350 .
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ttspice



Joined: 24 Dec 2001
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Location: Republic of Taiwan


Post17 Jan 2003 0:40   

Somebody told me some gfx card supports psuedo color in linux,
it should work...
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ByteEnable



Joined: 27 Apr 2001
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Post10 Feb 2003 13:20   

I also would like to have 8bit apps on my 16,24bit desktop. I have not tried this but Nvidia has this to say:

Option "OverlayDefaultVisual" "boolean "
When overlays are used and this option is enabled (the above statement is set to on ), this option sets the default visual to an overlay visual thereby putting the root window in the overlay. Note: This option is not recommended for RGB overlays.
Default: Option "OverlayDefaultVisual" "off" .

http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-4191/NVLinuxNotes4191.pdf

Byte
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spweda



Joined: 28 Jun 2001
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Post14 Feb 2003 5:59   

I have a Nvdia video card in my HP 8565. Although I could put the option overlay on, it still did not display 8/24 bits simultaneously. You need a high end video card to have the overlay on.
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