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keoiuser



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Post24 Mar 2008 22:34   

rms noise


Hi,

I have to apply a 33mV RMS noise in some circuits, i used the .noisetran simulation with eldo but i couldn't repair the value of 33mV in the simulation flow :
I have the frequency band noise, the noise period injection and an unknown coefficient : THN=40000!!

Any idea of the meaning of the value of THN???Or how can I inject the 33mV rms noise in my simu?

Please help, thank you.
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Post25 Mar 2008 8:32   

noisetran


<sourcename> <node1> <node2> noise <PSD_value> <vf2> <alpha>

where PSD is the thermal noise PSD
and vf2 is the flicker noise value at 1Hz
alpha is the flicker exponent
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keoiuser



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Post25 Mar 2008 10:26   

Re: RMS Noise


Thanks for replying,
First, I don't have enough knownelge in noise domain, in my noisetran simulation i have:

DC NOISE THN=40000f FMIN=100K FMAX=100Meg
Where FMIN & FMAX are the frequency band noise, I just want to determine where the value of 33mV rms noise appears?and so i can change its value.

thanks for help
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Post25 Mar 2008 11:07   

RMS Noise


ok write the following lines:
.NOISETRAN FMIN=100k FMAX=100MEG NBRUN=2 NFREQ=100 AMP=1 SEED=0 NOMOD=0 NONOM MRUN
Noise1 Plus GROUND noise 10.9e-12 0 1


where Plus is the noise source node
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keoiuser



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Post25 Mar 2008 11:15   

Re: RMS Noise


yah that's exactly what i do but where is the 33mV rms noise here?
thanks
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safwatonline



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Post25 Mar 2008 12:49   

RMS Noise


10.9e-12 is the PSD
PSD = (rms^2)/BW=(33m)^2/(100M-100k)
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keoiuser



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Post25 Mar 2008 13:00   

Re: RMS Noise


thank it's very useful
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