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si14
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 1061 Helped: 664 Location: North America
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13 Feb 2008 7:42 inset feed |
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Dear Friends,
Due to some difficulties, I changed my design procedure to Inset Feed. I am designing an Active Antenna working about 2.5 to 3.5 GHz.
For my frequency, I evaluate my patch dimensions, but when I put the feed line and connect it to the patch, fr changes!
I was wondering if it is possible for you to introduce a reference to me. Is there any reference in which I could get some information about designing this kind of antennas?
Thank you for your consideration.
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atul_microwaves_antenna
Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 90 Helped: 8
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14 Feb 2008 7:41 antenna inset feed method technique |
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coaxial feed are easy as compared to Inset feed.
You can check Bhatia book on Microstrip antenna published by Artech House.It is a good reference for microstrip feed design.
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si14
Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Posts: 1061 Helped: 664 Location: North America
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14 Feb 2008 11:30 inset fed microstrip |
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Dear atul,
Thank you very much for your reply.
But, due to fabrication problem, I should design Inset fees. Do you know any reference in this regard?
Many Thanks.
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balaguru thavamani
Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 267 Helped: 30
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14 Feb 2008 13:01 inset fed patch anteena |
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refer to the below doc ithink it will help u
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leaps
Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 47 Helped: 1
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03 Feb 2009 22:38 microstrip insed-fed antenna |
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i am designing the patch to operate at 10GHz using inset feed method now the problem i am facing is when i change the width Wf of the insed feed the resonant frequancy chages can anyone pleasee tell what should be the value for Wf .the best value of s11 i have been able to achieve is -20db i need to improve that further
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mounika
Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 8 Location: hyderabad
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25 Jun 2009 6:39 inset fed |
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how to i calculate value of Wf can anyone help me please
Added after 4 minutes:
how do i calculate the valued of L,W,Wf.can any help me please. do we have any formula
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avinashnv
Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 5
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25 Jun 2009 16:35 how to calculate inset gap |
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Hello
To calculate the value of wf i.e the width of microstrip line, we can refer Antenna theory-analysis and design by balanis, page num 734, This book is good for beginners. wf is related microstrip line feed's characteristic impedance (Zc).
Varying microstrip line width introduces junction capacitance which is the cause for variation of resonant frequency.
Regards
Avinash
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mounika
Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 8 Location: hyderabad
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26 Jun 2009 9:34 inset microstrip feed |
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thankyou avinash
Added after 2 hours 34 minutes:
hey i got balanis book from library.The book you are is wch edition
Added after 2 minutes:
the book wch you are talking is of wch edition(pg 734)
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avinashnv
Joined: 12 Jun 2009 Posts: 5
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26 Jun 2009 15:12 design of a patch with inset feed using ads |
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Hello mounika
I referred to second edition.
Regards
Avinash
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cipankurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Posts: 3 Location: malaysia
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30 Jun 2009 8:07 balanis microstrip |
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dear friends,
can some1 help me how to design network models for inset fed microstrip antenna..I'm very confuse how to generate the model in terms of inductance and capacitance..
my design is at 2.4 GHz frequency band..
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mounika
Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 8 Location: hyderabad
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01 Jul 2009 8:02 design of microstrip antenna with inset fed |
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hi,
can anyone tell me how to design array using inset feed.
regards
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cipankurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009 Posts: 3 Location: malaysia
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05 Jul 2009 17:13 inset feed microstrip |
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hi,
can anyone tell me how to design array using inset feed.
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dear mounika,
u can refer balanis book..antenna theory 3rd edition page 866..
this page describe clearly how to design array using either tapered line or quarter wavelength transfomer..
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rshirodk
Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 4
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13 Jul 2009 17:44 inset fed method |
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You can use a Half the wavelength as Length(L)
L=lambda/2=c/(2*Er*Fd)
where c=light velocity.
Er=dielectric constant of the substrate.
Fd= design frequency.
use the relation W*L=1.25 for the width of the Patch.
Now coming to the inset. You could have any value ranging from L/3 to L/2 for a good approximateed response.
So if are using any Optimization tool, use L/3 and L/2 as the limits.
This method has been tested for frequency frequencies around 2GHz.
Check for your frequencies and let me know if it works.
Thanks
Rakesh
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simazafrani
Joined: 24 Feb 2009 Posts: 1
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30 Jul 2009 9:16 design of inset feed line |
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Hi rshirodk...
hmm.. confused with the equation below to calculate size inset feed of patch?
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You can use a Half the wavelength as Length(L)
L=lambda/2=c/(2*Er*Fd)
where c=light velocity.
Er=dielectric constant of the substrate.
Fd= design frequency.
use the relation W*L=1.25 for the width of the Patch. |
for equation above W*L =1.25, W will be >>L, am i right?
i also wanna know how calculate the gap (slot for inset feed) between feed and patch
TQVM
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Jamesanton
Joined: 10 Aug 2009 Posts: 22 Helped: 5
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12 Aug 2009 10:26 design of a patch with inset fed using ads |
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| hai........ u can use lincalc it is available in the ADS software if u give the frequency it will give u the width and length automatically.....
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bina_sandhya
Joined: 28 Jul 2009 Posts: 1 Location: hyderabad
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18 Sep 2009 10:16 microstrip line feed design |
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| can any one help me to design a patch with Er=2.33,h=4.8mm,Fr=2300MHz to abtain 200MHz bandwidth at a good VSWR plz specify the technique
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