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hr_rezaee



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Post01 Jan 2008 8:52   About step change in the output of SC circuits

Dear All
Hi
I need some papers or books about step change in the output of SC circuit (for example MDAC of pipeline ADC) in the direction of opposite to its final value.
I need proof of it.
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Post01 Jan 2008 9:06   About step change in the output of SC circuits

maybe u should post the circuit and the test bench.
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Post01 Jan 2008 9:20   Re: About step change in the output of SC circuits

Hi
Thanks
I mean theoretical proof for step change in the output of SC circuits.
I have one in this paper but I need better one.



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Post05 Jan 2008 4:17   Re: About step change in the output of SC circuits

Dear Sir :
What is your mean ? the S.C output is evaluation. You must see DAC output (reference circuit) , it is settling . The almoset key is here. But there are few papers discuss it.
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Post05 Jan 2008 7:59   Re: About step change in the output of SC circuits

Hi
there is an proof for step changes at the start of charge transfer phase in some SC circuits such as SC amplifier.
see these figs and above attached paper.

Now, I need another paper or book that discaused about this phenomenon.
I need better mathematical proof for it.
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lladnar23



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Post05 Jan 2008 23:15   About step change in the output of SC circuits

Yea, so it's just a capacitive divider involving the feedback capacitor (CF) and the load capacitor (CL). Let me illustrate with a simple example. Consider an inverting stage with a gain of -2, and your feedback capacitor is 1/10 the size of your load capacitor. Now lets say we apply a -1V step input. There are two things that occur. First, we have a step change at the output due to the capacitive divider CF/CL. The output sees a negative step of Vin*CF/CL. For our numbers that's -1V*1/10 = -0.1V. Next, we have the settling of the stage, and it will settle to 2*Vin = +2V. So you can see that initially the output goes negative, then it eventually settles to the positive value as we expected.
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Post06 Jan 2008 22:18   About step change in the output of SC circuits

Dear lladnar23
Thanks
It is true. but I can't understand why we use step as input?
can you explain about step input in for example S/H circuit or Gain stage ?
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Post08 Feb 2008 12:55   About step change in the output of SC circuits

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lladnar23



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Post09 Feb 2008 4:51   About step change in the output of SC circuits

Well, since it's a switched capacitor circuit, we are sampling some voltage in clock phase 1, then when clock phase 2 happens, we apply the sampling cap to the virtual ground node of the opamp -- that's basically a step change in voltage since the voltage on a cap can't change instantaneously (I=CV').
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Post13 May 2008 9:52   Re: About step change in the output of SC circuits

hr_rezaee wrote:
Dear All
Hi
I need some papers or books about step change in the output of SC circuit (for example MDAC of pipeline ADC) in the direction of opposite to its final value.
I need proof of it.
regards


you can refer to the op amp design.
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