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manish12



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Post19 Dec 2007 10:21   

hummidity look up table?


a resistive(two pin small in size like switch pad on pcd ) humidity sensor i am using.

i need lookup table for this sensor

thanx
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ravimarcus



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Post20 Dec 2007 15:17   

Re: hummidity look up table?


manish12 wrote:
a resistive(two pin small in size like switch pad on pcd ) humidity sensor i am using. i need lookup table for this sensor


If it is resistive, then you will be measuring the voltage and this voltage will be linear. Without the data sheet it will difficult to provide a LUT.

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Ravi
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manish12



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Post20 Dec 2007 16:26   

Re: hummidity look up table?


still , i want LUT.

VCC---\/\/\/\/\------0/P-------/\/\/\/\/\----------GND
r=10k r(h)

at what volt ? , what i will show on display ?

it is my q ? simple .....................

i can connect any(suggested) value in place of r=10k ,if required
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Post20 Dec 2007 17:27   

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manish12 wrote:
still , i want LUT.

VCC---\/\/\/\/\------0/P-------/\/\/\/\/\----------GND
r=10k r(h)

at what volt ? , what i will show on display ?

it is my q ? simple .....................

i can connect any(suggested) value in place of r=10k ,if required


For this you will need to know what is the resistance change per unit change of humidity.

Cheers

Ravi
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manish12



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Post20 Dec 2007 17:37   

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so , where i am wrong ?

indirectly, same think ?
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Post20 Dec 2007 21:01   

hummidity look up table?


Make a LUT via calibration.

1. Take a precision humidity sensor as a standard.
2. Gradually increase the humudity over your interval of interest.
3. Measure voltage from your voltage divider
4. Make a LUT: measured voltage vs. reading of the precision humidity sensor.

P.S. Could you post a model or a datasheet for your sensor? May be there's an easier way.
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manish12



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Post21 Dec 2007 5:29   

Re: hummidity look up table?


thank you,

Quote:
2. Gradually increase the humudity over your interval of interest.


but ,how ????
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Post21 Dec 2007 5:46   

Re: hummidity look up table?


manish12 wrote:
Quote:
2. Gradually increase the humudity over your interval of interest.


but ,how ????


It depends on the equipment you have. There are special environmental chambers that can vary temperature and humidity. But, I guess, since you're asking, you don't have access to one of those.

You can take a sealed jar, add portions of water to it and increase the temprature. That way you'll increase the absolute humidity (kg_water/m^3).
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fala



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Post21 Dec 2007 5:51   

hummidity look up table?


Manish You need to use a calibrated humidity sensor so you can build your LUT according to calibration with that.
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manish12



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Post21 Dec 2007 6:56   

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Manish You need to use a calibrated humidity sensor so you can build your LUT according to calibration with that.


I GET IT , NEED CALIBRATION ,NEED STD METER.

what happen ,i am in small town , where this humidity has to display , but for present i am not find any std humidity meter to calibration . where i am present now!.

what , i did , i call to my brother and ask present humidity at my city(home) , adj the series resistants accordingly, and check it 5-6 times( interval 4h) with my non-std to std, and readj(r and prog).

tell me , is this ok !.
after this i guess , no meter is std meter..............sorry to say.
than you .
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ravimarcus



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Post21 Dec 2007 7:19   

Re: hummidity look up table?


Your method is partially ok, but not perfect.

First of all, where did you get this sensor?, Do you have a data sheet for this? Do you have a part no. for this sensor? If you can give any of this, then we can help you out.

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Ravi
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manish12



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Post21 Dec 2007 7:32   

Re: hummidity look up table?


no part no: i have .
see my first post , no data sheet , no graph : humidity vs r(h)
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ravimarcus



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Post21 Dec 2007 7:37   

Re: hummidity look up table?


manish12 wrote:
no part no: i have. see my first post , no data sheet , no graph : humidity vs r(h)

Hmmm. Measure the resistance and get to know the humidity at your place. When the humidity changes, repeat the procedure above. You will get a difference in resistance to a difference in humidity. With this you will be able to build a table.

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manish12



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Post21 Dec 2007 7:40   

Re: hummidity look up table?


you thinking right but humidity vs resi . .....is not linear one
like temp sensor 10mv/'c
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ravimarcus



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Post21 Dec 2007 7:43   

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manish12 wrote:
you thinking right but humidity vs resi . .....is not linear one
like temp sensor 10mv/'c
Then you are really in problem Smile.

BTW, where did you buy this sensor from?

Cheers

Ravi
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manish12



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Post21 Dec 2007 13:10   

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FROM LAMING TON ROAD MUMBAI , INDIA
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ravimarcus



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Post21 Dec 2007 14:04   

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Oh, then you can never get the data sheet. They are there only to sell and make money. Do one thing. Search the net for a resistive type humidity sensor. Use that data sheet and try to linearize. You may succeed.

Cheers

Ravi
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watermelon



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Post21 Dec 2007 15:36   

Re: hummidity look up table?


Go to a college physics lab and look at the [b]wet & dry bulb humidity meter [/b]working principles.
Use this to calibrate your sensor.
Also, check the effect of temperature on your sensor.

Also, you could convert the LUT into an equation using [url]http://math.fullerton.edu/mathews/n2003/NumericalUndergradMod.html[/url]
And then correct the values in a microcontroller or analog circuit.
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manish12



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Post21 Dec 2007 15:39   

Re: hummidity look up table?


thank you ,

i get the old lut , from college library, it is just alternative , not exact but ,still ok.

thank you all .
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