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eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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24 Nov 2007 17:03 t610 at command

hi all

i have seen many topics discussed in this forum using super old model of hp for sms controller. Unfortunately i have spend my last whole month trying to obtain those super old models like ericssonT10s, T18s, 688, or siemens C25/S25 and the result was miserable.... most of the shops in my country said that those models have long be gone... recently i bought a T10s from the internet and it couldnt work at all... wasted quite a sum of money there...

i source some website which was found using the T10s as sms controller, the only main two pins tapped out were the RX and TX or also known as the data in and data out pins. hence i thought it would be theorectically possible to build one using other sony ercisson model as long as they support AT commands and have the data in and data out pins (RX and TX)...

Has anyone has tried building a sms controller (simple one, just to turn on/off 4 LEDs) using either the sony ericsson T610 or T630?

i understand that both of the above mention models supports SMS in both text mode and PDU mode.

can anyone please confirm whether it is possible to implement before i get one and try it out? do send it any related useful website using the T610 and T630 as a sms controller...

lastly, between T610 and T630, are there any difference in implementing? or in lame men terms, which is easier to be implemented? i guess they are the same since they were manufactured almost about the similar time... anyway, do give your opinions, they are very much needed

thanks!

abbas1707

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24 Nov 2007 18:02 sony ericsson t630 digram circuit

i did this using t290i....t230 does not support text mode .so t290i is best for this

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eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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24 Nov 2007 18:58 cnmi sms directly to terminal t610

thanks for the reply... you did this based on any website or you design the circuit yourself? isn't t610 newer than t290i? theorectically is should be able to be done too right? what's your point of view? cause only t610 and t630 are only available at my region...thanks!

platonas

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24 Nov 2007 20:45 t630 setting baudrate

They are basically the same, personally I prefer T630 which is newer firmware.

The same I mean that a T610 can be upgrated to T630 only by firmware. certainly you will not get the same screen quality since the display is different (newer) but the T630 is an upgrate of the nice T610.

They both use PDU mode only, so you have to use PDU SMS format.

eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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25 Nov 2007 2:14 sms controller ericsion

platonas, so you have tried sms controller with T630?

abbas1707

Joined: 03 May 2007
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25 Nov 2007 15:04 t630 rs232 baud rate

eugenesiew wrote:

no i did not copied from anywhere..r u going to buy new cellphone??
i will recommend u to get a second hand set...and at the that time check if it supports
text mode or not!! u can check it by entering command AT+CMGF=1
if u get error then ur cell only support PDU mode....and i tell u PDU mode if quite difficult to work with:| Neutral

while text mode will save lot of ur time and energy:D Very Happy

eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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26 Nov 2007 8:09 t630 baud rate

abbas1707

ok i will check it.. thought of getting a new one... it cost RM300 / 80USD while the second hand costs RM 150 / 40USD, the problem is that the 2nd hp looks spoil. anyhow, i will check the whether it supprts sms text mode... thanks again... will need your guidance on using this newer t series of sony ericsson hp as a sms controller as no one else seem to have done it... thanks again!

badboy2007

Joined: 05 Feb 2007
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Location: Cambodia

26 Nov 2007 9:23 t630 rs232

dear all i had use the cell phone DUBAO768 the china product for sms comtroler it like T290i too !!

itsfanidotcom

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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26 Nov 2007 11:26 outpin t610

hi there.
i have also tried to make a similar project to send sms through microcontroller.
i used t-290i from sony ericsson.
if u r using t-630 u r wasting ur time. better use t-610.
actually u need a mobile which is auto baud rate set.. means it is compatable to the baud rate of microcontroller... so proferrly use t-290i,,, no problem is using this mobile.

eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 43

26 Nov 2007 13:59 ericsson sms controller

i just bought T630 la... the previous post said that t630 is newer and better? why do you say i would be wasting my time?? i really need all you experts out there... cause havent tried this before.. thanks!

at
OK
at+cmgf=?
+CMGF: (0,1)

OK
at+cmgf=1
OK

response from hyperterminal... it shows that it can support sms in text mode... but then the at command online reference from sony ericsson itself only says it has pdu mode... weird huh? but some other people had told me that it may support sms in text mode... anyone here able to suggest? thanks again

abbas1707

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26 Nov 2007 18:11 sms command in t290i

eugenesiew wrote:

if u got that output........then it clearly shows T630 supports text mode,,,,, but what about auto baud rate detect:idea: Idea

eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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27 Nov 2007 2:40 hex sms controller

abbas1707 wrote:

if u got that output........then it clearly shows T630 supports text mode,,,,, but what about auto baud rate detect:idea: Idea

how do i check the auto baud rate detect? have no idea... reading through the complete at command half way only.. 400 over pages...

abbas1707

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27 Nov 2007 13:38 decoding cmgf

here is something i found at page16 in AT commands manual

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1. Entering a set command
The standard format for entering a set command is:
AT<command>=<parameters><CR>
where AT Notifies the built-in modem that a command is being entered.
<command> The name of the command being entered.
<parameters> The values to be used by the command.
<CR> All command lines are terminated by pressing the <CR> (Return or Enter) key.
Note: All command lines are completed by pressing the <CR> key on the computer keyboard. For the
remainder of this manual, appropriate use of the <CR> key is assumed.
To set the built-in modem to operate with autobaud over an asynchronous connection, the command line
would be:
AT+CBST=0,0,1
However, the commands also have default settings. These are values that are assumed to have been
entered when no actual value is placed in the command line.
For example, the above command can be entered as:
AT+CBST=,,1
The default values used by the commands are indicated by bold text in the following descriptions.
When the parameter is a character string (for example “<name>”) then the value should be entered
between quotes: for example “Peter”.
Optional parameters are shown in square brackets: for example [<value>].
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Idea

eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 43

27 Nov 2007 14:25 t610 sms at

From the AT command manual
"The information here is not relevant for the day to day peration of the phone… "

does that mean that by connecting the phone to hyper terminal daily will spoil the t630?

can anyone explain the following meaning... i dont seem to be able to understand them fully

1. Some AT commands are not relevant to the built in modem operations or can only be set to one parameter value.

2. switching back to offline command mode by Pulling DTR low (not available when using cable)

3. what is the significance of the online command mode, offline command mode, online data mode for the t630 as a sms controller?

4. the sms text mode is not in the AT command online reference suppiled by sony ericsson... does anyone have them? or where should i get them?

5 ohyea, i still dont understand the baud rate thingy. what has that got to do witn?

thanks!

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eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 43

28 Nov 2007 4:12 how to delete sms me at commands t630

ohyea, i manage to send and receive sms using the PDU format... however, receiving sms does seem to have some limitation... that is the length of the decoded message can only be up to 14 characters (including spaces). why is so?

and oh yea, using the sms text mode... only has the advantage in sending sms? cause when received sms in hyperterminal, it's still in hex and requires decoding.. .someone correct me if i am wrong... but i feel that the only advatage of sms text mode is only for sending as shown below...

AT
OK
AT+CMGF=1
OK
AT+CMGW="+85291234567"
> A simple demo of SMS text messaging.
+CMGW: 1

OK
AT+CMSS=1
+CMSS: 20

OK

overhere one does not need to decode the hex language before sending and directly uses human readable language... correct?

thanks again!

abbas1707

Joined: 03 May 2007
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Helped: 11

28 Nov 2007 16:12 saving at+cnmi in memory t630

wrong man!!!!!!!!!!!!
did u try reading a message in hyper terminal using text mode?????????????????????????????????????
it gives ascii chars not hex codes when u read in text mode...............................
and for sending u can only use
at+cmgs="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
>hi ctrl-z

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eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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28 Nov 2007 17:01 t610 sms text mode

1) if i use at+cnmi=2,3,0,0,0 to indicate new message and send them to hyper terminal... the message received was in hex code....

if i used the at+cmgr=<index>
i can get the ascii code...
where index is the ME memory storage number.

2) if T630 is set in text mode, at+cmgl=<index> results in error, why is it so?

3) Sending SMS in text mode results in some extra appearance of funny symbols in the text... have you experience this?
example, "tesŎ Ŏting" when the word "testing" is only send from the computer..

4) what about the baud rate thingy? how does it affect the t630 sms controller?

5) what is the purpose of creating an interface between the computer and the handphone? i thought the hp is directly connected to the controller... and the controller is a stand alone type... no terminal equipment such as the computer is needed(based on the examples i saw so far)...

6) now that i have learn to send and receive sms, delete sms using at commands, please advise on my next step...?

thanks!

itsfanidotcom

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
Posts: 98
Helped: 3

30 Nov 2007 13:46 sony ericsson t610 at+cmgs?

i used t630 previously in my project... this mobile is fit for using with computer..works fine when u send sms through hyper terminal... but when u will use it with microcontroller it will not work any more...
u must try t610 or atleast t290..... if u wanna connect it with microcontroller... but if u only wanna attach it with computer its fine... to work with t630

asifrehmat

Joined: 21 Apr 2006
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30 Nov 2007 14:04 save in memory cnmi value t630

I did it with t290.

eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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30 Nov 2007 16:05 save at+cnmi parameter in se memory t630

itsfanidotcom

"actually u need a mobile which is auto baud rate set.. means it is compatable to the baud rate of microcontroller... "

erm... what do you mean by auto baud rate set...? i only have the T630 in my region, search high and low for t290 and t610, but none already... the controller i shall be using will be the PIC16F877A... cause i read that t610 and t630 are the same... only thing is that its firmware has been upgraded and its color screen has been improved to 65k tft... sorry to repeat this matter again... then have you tried it with the t610? thanks!
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abbas1707

Joined: 03 May 2007
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30 Nov 2007 17:51 save at+cnmi value at commands y630

u can only confirm baud rate problem by applying ur cell phone with controller circuit. actually i never used T630 so cant say much..
and i never saw the funny characters as u r saying "tesŎ Ŏting"... have u confirmed it?????
and after completing basic commands u write code for ur controller...i recommend u to proceed step by step...mean first try only " to send msg from ur controller to some other cellphone".... and code is not difficult ... u just have to transmit some strings serially......i u have doubts then ask ,, i will be there to help u Smile

eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 43

30 Nov 2007 17:57 t610i rs232 baudrate

yes, i can confirm that the weird characters do appear, 8 out of 10 times i tried sending sms using text mode, the funny symbols appear... also, i have a problem, i dont know how to connect the circuit with my controller, currently i am still investigating to connect T630 with PIC16F877A by means of RS 232.. ohyea, by the way, just to ask anyone outhere, is the data cable for T290i and T630 the same? thanks!

abbas1707

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30 Nov 2007 20:29 at text mode sms t610

they r same:D Very Happy

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eugenesiew

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01 Dec 2007 17:37 t630 pinout

ohyea, i found out the reason for the funny symbols, that's because i backspace when i miss type a character, if i did not use the backspace, the character sent perfectly well. OK, i will be working on interfacing the PIC with T630. Actually, since i have the data cable, can i just tapped out pin 4 and 5 and connect it to the PIC? the data cable has its maxim 232 in it already... doesn't it? thanks!

abbas1707

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01 Dec 2007 19:36 sms controller, with a t290i mobile phone

no dear. datacable have built in Max232 but...u cant connect data cable directly to pic ....some level conversion is needed i.e u must have to put ma232 in between ur pic and data cable:| Neutral

eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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01 Dec 2007 20:30 sony ericsson 290i to microcontroller

i dont understand the circuit diagram you post... why is there USB thing? what is that? and the picture you uploaded, it's directly from the pinout of the ericsson... not the data cable... forgive me if i am new to these kind of stuff... thanks!

abbas1707

Joined: 03 May 2007
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01 Dec 2007 22:24 se t610 sms text mode

i just posted them to show that data cables are same for T390 and T630. do u have data cable?? if u have then u need not worry about these things (USB..etc shown in above picture) . Smile

eugenesiew

Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 43

02 Dec 2007 3:36 connect t630

yes i have, then what about the connection between the data cable to the PIC using max232? most of the sms controller just tapped the RX and TX pins directly into ports of the controller. do you have the circuit diagram for that? btw, my data cable is the serial type... i manage to get them... not usb type... suppose to be better right? serial type? cause i understand that USB is not that stable... thanks!

concerning the baud rate thing,
at+cbst?
+CBST: 0,0,1

at+cbst=?
+CBST: (0,4,6-7,12,14-16,68,70-71,75,79-83),(0),(1)

what significance has this in the sms controller?[/img]

akilleuz

Joined: 02 Apr 2007
Posts: 16

11 Dec 2007 13:46 problem with at cnmi command using ericsson t630

Hi..

Im Using both an T610 and T630 with an DRS-10 calbe i have connected it like this:

Phone-->DRS-10-->Crossed RS232 cable--->STK500

Hope that helps