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Post24 Nov 2007 23:34   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

blueroomelectronics wrote:
Enjoy the kit, everything was perfect for a first run PCB. Except I've got the Target LED indicating the reverse from the true PK2, does not affect operation; so I'll document it and that'll be that.


Hi blueroomelectronics.

Neutral Arrow Very Happy

My bare board arrived now . I thought that not sent it, but I'm in mistake. You shipped it in the same day when I give you my address.

In this moment I am opening the package, your desing is very arranged, I like the blue solder mask and then I see that the silkscreen is very explicit.

Thanks for all Blueroomelectronics, now is time to find some parts and then build my Junebug. And later to do my full review with pics.
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Post25 Nov 2007 17:33   New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Glad you got it, have fun.
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Post25 Nov 2007 18:52   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Hi blueroomelectronics.

I have got my bare junebug PCB and thanks for indluding those sil resistors

I must say the board looks very professionally liad out and the silk screen is very clear, I've downloeded your assy manual had a read through it and I must say verly nicely laid out and really easy to follow.

I thought I had all of the parts for it, but I found out that I was the 2 mosfets short which I have ordered them so they should be here soon,

I already have a project lined up to test the programmer part out and debug if need be( which no doubt I will Very Happy)

But what i really like is that I can run a 18F1320 at the same time which is very good saving me time building up a sperate board for the TX unit and also I can do my A/D conversion before TX'ing my data

I'll keep you informed on progress I make

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Post25 Nov 2007 20:58   New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

You can hook it up without the fets, it should connect but show a VDD error. Use the PICkit 2 software as it has the diagnostics and the name your programmer functions.
You'll really find the UART tester built into the PICkit 2 software handy.
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Post27 Nov 2007 12:57   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

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Yep your's is a clone including the VDD clamp and adjustable VDD generator. I never said it was a bad design, I just said it's only $5 cheaper than a genuine PICkit 2 from Microchip. I personally would not build a clone of a kit if it was only a couple of dollars different in price than the real McCoy.


Hey Blueroom,

You make a good point, but some people (like myself) just like to build things. Very Happy
BTW, great job on the Junebug.
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Post28 Nov 2007 20:37   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Computerman29 wrote:
Quote:
Yep your's is a clone including the VDD clamp and adjustable VDD generator. I never said it was a bad design, I just said it's only $5 cheaper than a genuine PICkit 2 from Microchip. I personally would not build a clone of a kit if it was only a couple of dollars different in price than the real McCoy.


Hey Blueroom,

You make a good point, but some people (like myself) just like to build things. Very Happy
BTW, great job on the Junebug.


Me too Smile
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Post29 Nov 2007 0:18   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

blueroomelectronics wrote:
Computerman29 wrote:
Quote:
Yep your's is a clone including the VDD clamp and adjustable VDD generator. I never said it was a bad design, I just said it's only $5 cheaper than a genuine PICkit 2 from Microchip. I personally would not build a clone of a kit if it was only a couple of dollars different in price than the real McCoy.


Hey Blueroom,

You make a good point, but some people (like myself) just like to build things. Very Happy
BTW, great job on the Junebug.


Me too Smile

Sure, Me too.Very Happy

http://www.edaboard.com/download.php?id=133429
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Post29 Nov 2007 3:06   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

funnynypd wrote:

Sure, Me too.Very Happy
http://www.edaboard.com/download.php?id=133429


Yes, but your desings are ugly and your web site too Very Happy
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Post29 Nov 2007 4:55   New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Pretty people says pretty words. Thank you.Very Happy
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linhtd



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Post08 Dec 2007 4:50   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

i am a begining programmer, and i thing this kit will give me a good exam. Thx
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Post10 Dec 2007 7:02   New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Thanks Blueroom, follow your documents guide I downloaded from your WEB, I had successfull with PICKit2. I do it by my self. Thanks
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Post14 Dec 2007 1:48   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

blueroomelectronics wrote:
Glad you got it, have fun.


Hi blueroomelectronics.
Lamentably, I have not enough time to make my review for your board, I have so much work in these days. I build it and all works perfect, the only problem that I have is to find pack resistors, but I build it with singles ones.
Thanks for all and soon I make my review with some pictures of my final board.

Regards and Merry christmas
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@t



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Post18 Dec 2007 14:55   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

[quote="blueroomelectronics"]Thanks, it's a program called SketchUp. And there's even a free version of it.
quote]


Hi (Blueroomelectronics),

Is that the SketchUp from Google? Would you be so kind to share the component designs? I like the visual display.

Greetings @t.
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Post01 Jan 2008 1:52   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Hi Blueroom,
In Junebug Assembly Instruction you have shown a software and written microchip website for a free download will u please write complete address

and
in schematics of PICkit2 you have shown a 16 pin (CON3) connector what is for and please tell what is ferrite bead
thanks
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Post01 Jan 2008 3:23   New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Hello Saeed_pk.
The Junebug or PICkit 2 software is all available from Microchips website, in the development tools and IDE section.
You'll want (all free)
MPLAB 8.01
PICkit2 2.40 (standalone, UART tool, etc)
PK2CMD.exe (command line, handy for Swordfish BASIC)

A ferrite bead is a piece of wire with a ferrite bead around it, it'll block high frequency noise from the DC power path.
http://users.catchnet.com.au/~rjandusimports/tut_9a.html


The 16pin connector along the top is optional and for advanced programmers. It brings out all the unused I/O from the 18F2550 so you can use the Junebug as a USB experimenter (which a few PICkit 2 owners do!)
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saeed_pk



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Post01 Jan 2008 21:25   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Is it necessary to do that

Are these things exist in USB Data Travelers
And if i use some cap to that

if u designed it then please give a picture of it and if u buyed it then please show a pic of this

what is Price of PIC18F2550 in your area?
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samneang



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Post02 Jan 2008 16:42   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Hi Blueroomelectronic !

What is the part number of the 680uH inductor do you use ?

Please help me !
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Post03 Jan 2008 0:31   New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Both the Ferrite Bead and inductor are available from digikey. The price locally of a 18F2550 is about $15 CDn
It'll work without the ferrite bead (just use a wire).
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hpzjw



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Post05 Jan 2008 8:18   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

blueroomelectronics wrote:
Just putting the prototype through the paces and always enjoy the comments.

The PICKit 2 from Microchip is fast becoming an excellent choice for anyone starting with PICs. Although a genuine PICKit 2 is only $38 (digikey) so building a clone would not be very profitable (there is ebay PK2 clone from China for $10 but the shipping is $20 and you still need the USB cable)

So here's what we're doing at blueroomelectronics.

Junebug is a combination PK2 SE (Student edition 5V only VDD, a genuine PK2 supports 3.3V PICs) and an updated Firefly kit http://www.blueroomelectronics.com/firefly.htm
On a single small 115mm x 57mm PCB. The image below will be updated as the design is being drawn. It will also be BLUE Very Happy

The Firefly schematic can be found on our site, but here's the PK2 schematic.

And yes it works great with both MPLAB and PICKit2 software.
Here's the hand wired prototype, (early version, works fine)

good kit!!!!!!!
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Post05 Jan 2008 23:34   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Though there are people kept reporting that it works in the past months, not until recently, this design has been found that the USB signal is wrong by a fan in this forum. Even the designer doesn’t know it until it was point out. Big mistake, isn't it?

Don't know who are all those people reporting bought the board and made it working. Also don't know how it could be possible to make it working without a correct USB signal.

Probably it is because of the money in my pocket and in your pocket.

Do these guys have a clue what is electric and electronics? Or just pretending, Making Fake staff and misleading us?

Crying or Very sad
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Post25 Jan 2008 7:40   New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Well it's correct on the PCB layout and the schematic has also been corrected in the manual.
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IamnotJunk



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Post26 Jan 2008 19:44   New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

So, finally it turned out this is a PCB design without a correct schematic? Got to be kinding me!
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Post26 Jan 2008 20:34   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

IamnotJunk wrote:
So, finally it turned out this is a PCB design without a correct schematic? Got to be kinding me!


Well if you bothered the check the Junebug manual on the site you'd see it was fixed. The PCB was always correct. It's also now fixed on the schematic above. Happy.

Here's a Junebug programming and debugging a Mongoose robot kit.

The Mongoose programmed using Swordfish BASIC SE (free!)
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coolcat



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Post01 Feb 2008 12:06   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

The pickit2 SE can programs which PIC?
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Post01 Feb 2008 17:49   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

coolcat wrote:
The pickit2 SE can programs which PIC?


The "SE" edition can program most Flash based 5V PICs (no 3.3V support)
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Post03 Feb 2008 8:06   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Can the original Pickit2 (microchip) support 3.3V pic?
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Post03 Feb 2008 18:21   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

coolcat wrote:
Can the original Pickit2 (microchip) support 3.3V pic?


Yes it can.
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Post12 Feb 2008 19:11   New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

Hi, i'm really interested on that design,

i download the datasheet of the PICKit2 and looks some difference with ur design and i have a couple of question about it...


Where can find the firmware of the PIC18F2550?

Why don´t need the EEPROM's like on the PICKit 2?



Thank´s for ur time and help...
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Post12 Feb 2008 20:20   New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

The Junebug is a simplified PICkit2 design, it omits the EEPROM as they are currently not used and is a 5V only device programmer / debugger.
The Firmware can be found when you install MPLAB (PICkit 2 directory)
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Post12 Feb 2008 23:45   Re: New kit announcement, Junebug (PICKit2 SE & Firefly)

fuevarde wrote:
Hi, i'm really interested on that design,

i download the datasheet of the PICKit2 and looks some difference with ur design and i have a couple of question about it...


Where can find the firmware of the PIC18F2550?

Why don´t need the EEPROM's like on the PICKit 2?



Thank´s for ur time and help...


you can find the firmware info on my faq link:
http://www.auelectronics.selfip.com/Q3.htm
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