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memarian



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Post01 Oct 2007 12:55   Ultra Wideband Bias-TEE Equivalent circuit

Dear,

I want to use a wide band ~1W MMIC Amplifier,that i must using it's output RF power pin

for DC Supply. Usually i use a Bias-TEE for this purpose but a Wide band Bias-Tee

has about 1~1.5dB insertion Loss.I need to find another solution to avoid that Loss.
(Maximum 0.5dB Loss is acceptable).

My FREQ. Range is 6~14 GHz(this MMIC is usable up to 20GHz @ 27dBm).

Does anyone have any solution?

this MMIC have a Output Return Loss < -10dB (VSWR~2) in it's bandwidth.

Thanks.
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fwbsys



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Post02 Oct 2007 16:14   Re: Ultra Wideband Bias-TEE Equivalent circuit

Hi,

as i designed a circuit with an era amplifier i've used a capacitor and inductor in the dc supply path to surpress the the HF-parts ... the loss was between 0,5 and 1dB if i remeber right ... i used a 500µm rogers substrate with 1200µm hf-coplanar lines an a 200µm dc-supply line 800MHz - 5GHz
mayba you can try to vary the dimensions of your dc-supply or hf line?

cu
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biff44



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Post04 Oct 2007 16:39   Ultra Wideband Bias-TEE Equivalent circuit

I would use one of these broadband conical inductors from Piconics.

http://piconics.com/
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Abhishekabs



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Post11 Dec 2007 7:38   Ultra Wideband Bias-TEE Equivalent circuit

I want to design a bias tee for measurement of S parameters using test fixture.
How should I design broad band bias tee?
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wjnbry



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Post06 Jan 2008 10:43   Re: Ultra Wideband Bias-TEE Equivalent circuit

Abhishekabs wrote:
I want to design a bias tee for measurement of S parameters using test fixture.
How should I design broad band bias tee?

i've the same idea.give me some information if you get it.
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shogun



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Post24 Jan 2008 2:46   Re: Ultra Wideband Bias-TEE Equivalent circuit

If the circuit if operating above 1Ghz and you have the board space you will need to use a radial stub. It will act like an open circuit at your frequency of interest.

Shogun
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laipi



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Post09 Apr 2008 8:54   Re: Ultra Wideband Bias-TEE Equivalent circuit

Without detail information your frequency area, it is hard to give any design tip.
As you having said, you are going to use it to measure S-parameter, so it is small RF signal you are dealing with, then how much of the biaing current through the biasingh path? THis will determine your choice for the RFC.
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james cook



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Post11 Apr 2008 12:39   Re: Ultra Wideband Bias-TEE Equivalent circuit

hope following pappers help


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mirabella2



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Post17 Apr 2008 9:16   Re: Ultra Wideband Bias-TEE Equivalent circuit

memarian wrote:
Dear,

I want to use a wide band ~1W MMIC Amplifier,that i must using it's output RF power pin

for DC Supply. Usually i use a Bias-TEE for this purpose but a Wide band Bias-Tee

has about 1~1.5dB insertion Loss.I need to find another solution to avoid that Loss.
(Maximum 0.5dB Loss is acceptable).

My FREQ. Range is 6~14 GHz(this MMIC is usable up to 20GHz @ 27dBm).

Does anyone have any solution?

this MMIC have a Output Return Loss < -10dB (VSWR~2) in it's bandwidth.

Thanks.


ADCH-80 or ADCH-81 to 10Ghz:D

http://www.minicircuits.com/pages/s-params/ADCH-80_VIEW.pdf
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masud_809



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Post27 Apr 2008 16:50   Ultra Wideband Bias-TEE Equivalent circuit

You mean for designing broad band dc-bias network, at high frequencies, there's no need to design radial stubs?!! and we can use only a capacitor and inductor to isolate the RF signals?
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