Trying to program the PIC10F222, some help needed

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psmll

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28 Sep 2007 16:11 pic10f222

Hi,

I'm using the PIC10F222 for some tasks, everything goes well, when using the original ICD2, but at home I have a ICD2 clone that always have worked well with other several PICs, but have several problems with 10F222, some tasks do well, some don't Crying or Very sad

So I'm trying to find a simple programmer that I can do to program the 10F222, but so far no luck Crying or Very sad

The JMD2 seems to not do the job.

At softwares the IC-Prog, WinPIC and WinPIC800 don't support it.(the winpic800 support it but need a special programmer)

Do you know what is the problem with 10F220/222 to not be supported for softs and programmers?

I read the programmer specifications of the PIC10F222 and didn't find nothing special, all the voltages are normal.

For now I will try to make some changes to my ICD2 Clone and see what happens!

psmll

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28 Sep 2007 22:30 pic10f222 programmer

I made some changes to my ICD2 clone, but not work with PIC10f222 Crying or Very sad

I tested the ICD2 with the changes in the schematic with PIC18F458 and work well.

If you know some programmer and software that can program the PIC10F222, please tell me.

blueroomelectronics

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29 Sep 2007 2:27 10f222 programmer

The 10F222 is supported by the ICD2. You have to be careful with any 6 pin PIC when using it with an ICD2 as you can't have a high load on PGC, PGD & MCLR.

VSMVDD

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29 Sep 2007 3:09 icsp 10f222

ic prog and three pins two resistors
if its just for development this bit bang method works fine PGC, PGD & MCLR.= rx tx cts...rs232
look fo three wire programming for any pic via ic-prog and any serial com port

just like any other pic

funnynypd

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29 Sep 2007 18:00 pic10f based

It seems the chipset you are working with is under the list of supported chip. Buy one or build one might solve the issue. There is lots of discussion on this web and Microchip forum, do a little search.
The good thins is the 6 ICSP program ping-out is similar with ICD2, so it won't give you much pain by just switching a programmer.
Good luck.

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psmll

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29 Sep 2007 23:36 programming pic 4550 pickit2

blueroomelectronics wrote:

The 10F222 is supported by the ICD2. You have to be careful with any 6 pin PIC when using it with an ICD2 as you can't have a high load on PGC, PGD & MCLR.

Thanks for the tip, but not worked with me Crying or Very sad

VSMVDD wrote:

I already used this method in the past, but the big problem is that ICProg don't support the PIC10F222 Crying or Very sad

funnynypd wrote:

It seems the chipset you are working with is under the list of supported chip. Buy one or build one might solve the issue. There is lots of discussion on this web and Microchip forum, do a little search.
The good thins is the 6 program ping-out is similar with ICD2, so it won't give you much pain by just switching a programmer.
Good luck.

Yesterday I searched and because the PICKit2 now in version 7.62 of MPLAB already support debug for a good list of PICs, and is cheap, I will order one Very Happy

But I can't wait it, I will have to wait several days before receive it, so I will do a clone to use until have the original Wink

The clone will be a simplification version of PICKit 2, only for 5V PICs, I already did the schematic, and only need time to implement it and test (but probably now I will need to go to bed and sleep, too much work, and tomorrow some more Very Happy

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funnynypd

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30 Sep 2007 16:10 microchip 6pin price 10f

There is also schematic available on this link:
http://www.edaboard.com/ftopic273287.html

psmll

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01 Oct 2007 5:02 read 10f222 memory

funnynypd wrote:

There is also schematic available on this link:
http://www.edaboard.com/ftopic273287.html

Thanks, but for me doing my schematic is something that I like to do, it's funny Wink

At the moment I have 1 or 2 hours to do it and put it in a breadboard, and test Smile

The big problem is that at the time the list of electrical components that I have at home is small, so will have to do something that use only the components that I have Sad

Added after 5 hours 43 minutes:

By accident I put my PIC10F222 at 20V and burned it Crying or Very sad

But I did the PICKIT 2 clone, and it work very good, is very fast and work well with MPLAB Very Happy

I have to say that I think that PICKIT2 will have a great future, microchip are doing well updating the firmware.

some images Wink

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funnynypd

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01 Oct 2007 12:32 pic10f222 programer

Great job. Very Happy

And glad you speak out the truth.
Comparing with the pain ICD 2 giving me, I enjoyed the PICkit 2 more just as you did.

Will you try the PIC10F as early as you can? Can you verify this please? I will also use some PIC10F parts in my design. This worries me.

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namqn

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01 Oct 2007 13:04 pickit2 10f222

funnynypd wrote:

Will you try the PIC10F as early as you can? Someone claim the PIC10F isn't support by PICkit2 but ICD2. Can you verify this please? I will also use some PIC10F parts in my design. This worries me.

PICkit 2 is my favourite PIC programmer at the moment. It can program all the PIC/dsPIC I have (around 100 types), including PIC10F202 and PIC10F206. I have not tried the PIC10F22x chips yet, but don't see why PICkit 2 could not program them.

I'm using the dedicated software for PICkit 2 when programming.

Cheers,

blueroomelectronics

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01 Oct 2007 13:24 pic10f202 verify not working

My mistake, I was using MPLAB which did not have support for the 10F series with PICKit2, I did not try the standalone PICKit2 software which does have support for almost all Flash based PICs and some EEPROMs too.

psmll

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01 Oct 2007 21:11 how to program a pic10f202

funnynypd wrote:

Great job. Very Happy

Will you try the PIC10F as early as you can? Someone claim the PIC10F isn't support by PICkit2 but ICD2. Can you verify this please? I will also use some PIC10F parts in my design. This worries me.

I ordered more PIC10F222, but will need to wait some days to get it at home.

But don't worrie, the PICKit 2 support the 10F222 Very Happy

Added after 3 hours 24 minutes:

Update:

Today I get some PIC10F222 from a friend and it works really well in my PICKit 2 clone Very Happy

Finally I can program the PIC10F222, I'm happy Wink

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funnynypd

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02 Oct 2007 2:01 pic programmer pic10f222

Thanks for verifying this and Congratulations.

tolgiz

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02 Oct 2007 20:56 how to program pic10f ics

nice work bro.....congratulation

Nandulal

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26 Oct 2007 10:10 pic 10f222

Dear psmll,
Can you upload the schematics? and firmware for PICKit2 here? ? Also one newbie question, can I use PIC18F4550 instead of PIC18F2550? logically I can say yes as the core and the memory is same only diff. is the port pin.

am I right or wrong here?

Thanks
Nandu

psmll

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26 Oct 2007 15:20 10f222 icsp schematic

Nandulal wrote:

hi,

First take a look at:
http://www.microchip.com/pickit2

Microchip give you the schematic, you can find it at the User's Guide Very Happy

Microchip also give you the firmware, in PICkit2 page search for "PICkit 2 Firmware V2.10"

And you can use a PIC4550 without problem Wink

If you want a simple schematic only for 5V PICs, similar of the one that I did, you can look at PICkit2 lite made by blueroomelectronics:
http://www.edaboard.com/ftopic276103.html#922427

mee48025

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07 Apr 2008 16:49 pic10f222 program

please give me the schematic of pickit2

funnynypd

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07 Apr 2008 17:35 pic 10f222

go to microchip web site or my site, you should be able to find one:
http://www.auelectronics.com/Hardware-CB0703.htm

psmll

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10 Apr 2008 16:37 serial programmer schematic pic10f222

mee48025 wrote:

please give me the schematic of pickit2

download this pdf:

http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/51553E.pdf

and go to pag 81, this is the official schematic by microchip Wink

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funnynypd

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10 Apr 2008 20:14 +icprog +10f220

My site has a pdf version of enhanced PICkit2 schematic:
1. CB0703 web page
http://www.auelectronics.selfip.com/Hardware-CB0703.htm
2. or pdf version of schematic:
http://www.auelectronics.selfip.com/pdfs/CB0703_PICKit2_Schematic.pdf

ichilton

Joined: 25 Sep 2008
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25 Sep 2008 16:59 pic10f wont program

Hi psmll,

Are you able to say which components you used out of your bits box? - a parts list, schematic or even just a list of what you chance from what, to what on the blueroomelectronics design you link to.

Thanks

Ian