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azaz104
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Can you give me advice on this :
I got 2 scholarships, the first from VUB in bruxelles for Wavelets under Dr. Munteanu
and the second in Barcelona in UAB for wireless comm.
What do you think better for life, Bruxelles or Barcelona?
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ch1k0
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| 07 Sep 2007 22:48 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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Barcelona!!! Wireless is future! sea, warm sun, cataluņa ...
Brussels: cold , rain, dark. more expensive live there. wavelets is software, play with matlab onlY?
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flatulent
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| 08 Sep 2007 5:10 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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| On the other hand, pleasant weather may divert you from your studies with temptations to stay outdoors with people instead of indoors with your books.
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azaz104
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| 08 Sep 2007 17:29 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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i'll take about 1560 euros in belgium
1000 euros in barcelona
so what to do ?
Added after 1 minutes:
i'll post the description of both PhD's next week...
and i'll have to reply next week to decide.
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PaulHolland
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| 08 Sep 2007 21:14 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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| Which country are your from ?.
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azaz104
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| 09 Sep 2007 16:07 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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I'm from jordan
but jow does it matter
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vomit
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| 09 Sep 2007 18:54 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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| azaz104 wrote: |
i'll take about 1560 euros in belgium
1000 euros in barcelona
so what to do ? |
I'm from Belgium. Don't underestimate factors like taxation levels and cost of living in Brussels! The Belgian government has one of the highest tax levels. A disgusting part (>50% !!) of my wages are directly stolen by the government! And with all the Eurocrats in Brussels, housing is way more expensive.
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jojo34
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| 09 Sep 2007 20:36 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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i think he will not pay taxex. He is a scholarship holder.
I would say Brussels is better than Barcelona in terms of professional development. In Barcelona, there is enough sunshine, parties, you will be more satisfied with the life may be, but the people there don's speak foreign langauges. I think your program is in English, and you might have to learn French/Dutch or Spanish/Catalan.
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ch1k0
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| 09 Sep 2007 20:51 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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All pay tax in Belgium, says my professor... rain, dark, cold. Study for nobel prize there!!!
VUB is dutch speaking, no use learn, better spanish... only english is important!!!
if good in wireless, jobs are everywhere! go USA, Texas, California, spanish always good.
talk dutch, only to dutch talk, dutch don't like musulmans, so why talk ?
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vomit
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| 09 Sep 2007 21:01 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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| jojo34 wrote: |
i think he will not pay taxex. He is a scholarship holder.
I would say Brussels is better than Barcelona in terms of professional development. In Barcelona, there is enough sunshine, parties, you will be more satisfied with the life may be, but the people there don's speak foreign langauges. I think your program is in English, and you might have to learn French/Dutch or Spanish/Catalan. |
A PhD is a postgraduate degree, and the government doesn't subsidize it anymore. I guess that a PhD student receiving a monthly fee would be considered an employee of the university, and therefore subject to tax, social security, solidarity and all other extortions that are due. Otherwise doing a PhD for many years would be a free way to get around tax laws, and the taxman is way greedier/smarter than that. The only people really exempt are our royalty and Eurocrats (go figure). Even if a high school student does some vacation jobs and earns more than roughly 2000 euros per year (!) he is considered no longer deductible from his parents' tax form.
The basic message is: watch out for living expenses and taxation levels in both cases, that the seemingly higher wages in Brussels don't turn out to get you less far at the end of the month.
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talk dutch, only to dutch talk, dutch don't like musulmans, so why talk ? |
Strange, I thought it was the other way round 
http://dutchreport.blogspot.com/2004_11_01_archive.html
Anyway, the Netherlands don't reach to Brussels, over here we're in Flanders.
So far, few kills yet (although surviving Brussels can get very hairy in the evening).
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azaz104
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| 09 Sep 2007 22:11 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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Is the subject of religion that important ?
in Jordan i have 2 christian friends and one ------, and we're like brothers
Don't believe the rumors, come to Jordan and see for yourselves.
I have people come here and ask me if we have restaurants, Internet, or rental cars????? for ---'s Sake people...come and see. I know it's a scientific question in the first place, but the truth should be told
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mobile-it
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| 10 Sep 2007 16:53 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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Choose the most interesting topic to you; don't choose for the rest...
BTW they speak english/french/dutch/german at VUB... most of the flemisch people speak their languages they need to make money and for social things in belgium
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azaz104
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| 11 Sep 2007 9:09 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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the thing is that I like oth subjects !
but some people told me that the ranking of the UAB in Barcelona is Higher
than VUB in Bruxelles.
Thank you Salma for your post. But I already don't care about anyone who has a predetermined Ideas about Relig*ion .
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salma ali bakr
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| 11 Sep 2007 15:46 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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Okay great....then Barcelona it is 
Be sure that we'll all come to visit...hehehee
take care and best of luck,
Salma
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azaz104
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| 11 Sep 2007 23:34 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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ahla w sahla..betsharfu
bas mesh zay elly bey3ed 9ee9asoh w el beydah faw2 rasoh
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ch1k0
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| 25 Sep 2007 23:09 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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| Belgium maybe not exist when you take plane... flemish vote for separation, talk dutch or talk another place.
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cmos babe
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| 26 Sep 2007 15:30 Belgium Or Spain |
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| Dutch is easy. Hoe gaat het? Goed met jouw ? ...etc It's just English but read backwards.
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vomit
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| 26 Sep 2007 20:50 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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| If Dutch were easy, the French speaking part and even the Royal family of Belgium wouldn't have so much trouble speaking it...
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heartbreakkid
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| 26 Sep 2007 21:03 Belgium Or Spain |
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| Barcelonaz the best man..go for it..
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ch1k0
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| 26 Sep 2007 22:34 Belgium Or Spain |
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I just wondering whom they had asked and how they think it can be done?
May be better if they can ask someone else to stop support for vahhabism ?
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hbsustc
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salma ali bakr
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| 29 Sep 2007 12:07 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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Why is part of this post turning into religious and political talks...!!!
Anyway, I think Belgians are really nice. I have met two Belgian guys during my studies and they were so helpful and kind. They gave me a really good impression about Belgium. Also, Spanish people are really welcoming and warm...I've met lots of Spanish people but I specifically remember two little cute girls that spoke tons of languages...They were so tiny to know all that!!!
After allllll...go for the "studies" you prefer...don't make everything depend on just the country you're going to be in....So what did you choose at the end...??? I have to know
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azaz104
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| 29 Sep 2007 12:48 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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thank you salma for getting this back on track...
I was really annoyed by the people who turned this subject from technical
to religious.
at this time i guess it's 70% brussels <-> 30% barcelona
i still have a couple of weeks
by the way...either way..you're welcome
basel
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salma ali bakr
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azaz104
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| 29 Sep 2007 14:55 Re: Belgium Or Spain |
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and the atomium is near it...i know brussels..i visited it a couple of times..
where do you study salma..and what is your major?
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salma ali bakr
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fito82
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| 04 Oct 2007 17:25 Belgium Or Spain |
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Yep, you should take your decisions based on what subject you like more. Boths subjects seems interesting, I learnt a little about wavelets on a MRI course i took some time ago, cool stuff.
My sister is finishing its phd in Gent, in Belgium. She may tell you some good reasons to go Belgium instead of Spain. She worked on a lab in France, and now is very happy on Belgium.
From what I've heard, in general, phds on spain are somewhat underrated. I dont know VUB nor UAB so I can't speak properly.
Still, I'm quite sure learnign dutch will prove a challenge; in comparision, spanish is much easier. 
Good luck!
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