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pakitos
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Hi all
some of the posts contain
1) repeated information. ( e.g. yes true or the same idea paraphrazed).
2) Wrong answers or explanation.
I think that these things must be reported to moderators.
Checking can be done by:
1)The author of a post follows his post.
2)A member who is interested by the post.
We must all cooperate to help mederators to improve this forum
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glenjoy
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| 28 Jul 2007 8:32 Re: post wrong answers |
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| pakitos wrote: |
Hi all
some of the posts contain
1) repeated information. ( e.g. yes true or the same idea paraphrazed).
2) Wrong answers or explanation.
I think that these things must be reported to moderators.
Checking can be done by:
1)The author of a post follows his post.
2)A member who is interested by the post.
We must all cooperate to help mederators to improve this forum |
1. That is why we have the search function in the board, and if the threadstarter doesn't know the search function exists or forgot to use it, members will reply by giving him the links of threads related to his/her post.
2. We cannot avoid wrong answers or wrong expalanations, but we have members who can correct or give as a link of a website where the answer is explained very well.
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leekk8
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| 14 Aug 2007 8:34 post wrong answers |
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| Agree...forum is a place for us to discuss and learn from each other, if there is penalty for wrong answer, many people will not be dare to post their answer here and make the discussion less interactive. If the answer is wrong, I believe there will be somebody willing to correct it, and all of us can learn from the mistake.
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pakitos
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| 14 Aug 2007 9:32 post wrong answers |
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some ( not all) answer just for gaining points.
nobody is perfect everyone can make mistekes. if a person is not sure he knows the answer and is interested then i think to ask questions is better then answer.
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leekk8
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| 15 Aug 2007 7:26 post wrong answers |
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Yes, if the answer is obviously just to gain points, we should report to moderators...
Like someone answer: "Try to google it out"...
This kind of answer is not an answer...
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pakitos
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| 18 May 2008 13:24 post wrong answers |
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that is what i am talking about. In addition to the wrong ones.
I know moderators do not have time to read all posts.
if we help them by sending reports how can we know that we are of help or our point of view is correct?
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Old Nick
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| 18 May 2008 13:48 Re: post wrong answers |
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It can be vaguely annoying when you answer a question, only for someone else to give the exact same answer on the post a couple of hours later, paraphrased (as the OP says) with no acknowledgement and nothing extra added in way of explanation.
I've even have people tell me that my answer is wrong (when it's not), then 'correcting' it by giving exactly the same solution. This, must be one of the most cynical ways to steal someones 'helped' points.
But it's the people who chip in all the time with really vague stuff, and then ask for the OP to push the helped me button, that I find the most irritating.
I think people are correct sometimes when telling people to google stuff. People should really practise their research skills instead of asking for everything. I pretty much did some ones homework on here over a couple of days, incredibly basic stuff (working out the charge on a capacitor etc), I did, I think it was Q1 and Q 5 to start with as everything needed to complete the rest of the questions was in those two. Still he wanted more, I told him to google 'charge on a capacitor' and read to gain some insight into what he was doing. I did a further couple of questions for him and I'm yet to recieve a helped me.
There are a few other posters I've spent time with on their problems only for them to blame me etc. for their lack of understanding. They get no more help. You can usually tell spot them though, several hundred posts, and yet helped nobody.
Rant over.
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flatulent
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| 18 May 2008 19:05 Re: post wrong answers |
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| If you use the report link on the right of each post you will get the moderator's attention. I delete about 10 posts a day from this.
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umery2k75
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| 18 May 2008 21:10 Re: post wrong answers |
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@Pakitos
Yes, it's true. You can use the report msg. to the moderator, that would be very nice. If you talk about earning point, then I could earn more points strategically. What all I need to do is to make one more account on EDAboard, so altogether I'll have two accounts on EDAboard. One original ID and other fake ID.
One fake ID of mine would be asking,discussing post on this forum and with my second original ID, I would be replying to my fake ID. I will then click "Helped me" to the original ID, I won't care whether people post their messages to that topic or not. I'll earn points at the speed of sound in this way.More points and Helps than any body else on this forum in a very short period of time 
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atferrari
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| 19 May 2008 1:23 post wrong answers |
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Playing tricks with "helped" score is idiotic, sorry, really stupid.
Who cares about that? Just idiots.
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A.Anand Srinivasan
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| 19 May 2008 3:26 post wrong answers |
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| i believe some are sure that their answer is right due to their own misconception and this leads to discussions which help clear everyones misconception and also brings in a different angle to the answers... so punishing wrong answers need a lot care i.e. only if we know for sure the user has posted for the sake of points...
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umery2k75
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| 19 May 2008 9:48 Re: post wrong answers |
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@atferrari
I said, It can be done.Ofcourse nobody cares about points and helps.My post was the answer to the person in this post.I answered,because a person in this post said that people usually repeat post in order to gain points. I said they repeat post, because they don't know. So, few people many a times gives the link to the person asking for the topic that has been discussed before. They simply don't know, thats why they ask, they don't post quesions to gain points. Many users even donate points who don't have, so they can download the files,etc.
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klug
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| 21 May 2008 19:08 Re: post wrong answers |
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| umery2k75 wrote: |
What all I need to do is to make one more account on EDAboard, so altogether I'll have two accounts on EDAboard. One original ID and other fake ID.
One fake ID of mine would be asking,discussing post on this forum and with my second original ID, I would be replying to my fake ID. I will then click "Helped me" to the original ID, I won't care whether people post their messages to that topic or not. I'll earn points at the speed of sound in this way.More points and Helps than any body else on this forum in a very short period of time |
It is easy for moderators and attentive users to trace it and it is very easy way for sly user to be banned in all his IDs. (Frankly speaking, I banned dozens of unfair men for such trick, many of them by reports of our users.)
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pakitos
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| 23 May 2008 14:17 post wrong answers |
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| dear moderator when sending reports how can we know that we are helping and not sending wrong ideas?
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klug
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| 23 May 2008 23:07 Re: post wrong answers |
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| pakitos wrote: |
| ... when sending reports how can we know that we are helping and not sending wrong ideas? |
There is no feedback in report system. It would be too complicated with feedback. The only way to know that your report was useful is to notice +5 points on your account. But sometimes few users are making reports about the same wrong post at the same period of time, and script is allowing to grant only one of these users. So, you can give useful report, but receive no points for it. A good thing is that this situation is quite rare. 
Moderators are grateful to all users who are helping by reports. It is a pleasure to give points for useful report.
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forkschgrad
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| 24 May 2008 3:56 Re: post wrong answers |
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| for true answers to be seen, sometimes wrong answers are needed.
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pakitos
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| 25 May 2008 8:47 post wrong answers |
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Dear moderator my concern was not the points. I just wanted to know for example let us say one finhe report cases are rare.ds a repeated post with diff title and sends a report. how can he know if this is useful.
If not so he will not send a report the next time he finds something similar.
In this way the number if reports decreases.
It makes life easier even that t
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klug
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| 25 May 2008 10:49 Re: post wrong answers |
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Ok,
There is a list of most popular useful reports:
1. Crosspost - when user making the same or near identical messages in different posts or forums.
2. Useless - when user is sending something like "asadgfzzz", or "Thank You", or "me too", or "good book", or "I like it", "P-CAD is the best, I like it", or "Look in Google". In most cases users are making useless posts to gain points.
3. SPAM - when user is making advertisement in wrong forum (Only "EDA Jobs, Promotions, Advertising Forum" is suitable for commercial advertisements or job searching).
4. Wrong forum - when user is posting a book or book request in wrong forum. All request must be posted in Requests Forum, all Books must be posted with correct description in E-Books Forum. (As a rule we are moving all wrongly posted books and requests to Trashcan - as that is the only way to teach good habits to lazy user) Also sometimes users are posting questions in wrong forums - we are moving them to correct forums.
5. Illegal software - Posting commercial software or cra_cks is forbidden.
6. Copy/Paste previous post - some point hunters are making a copy of old posts to imitate useful post. It is very severe fault - moderators are making instant banning for such violators.
7. Offtopic - post with wrong theme for forum or topic.
8. Dual Personality - When the same user is replying to himself under other account.
9. Book was posted before - User is posting a book that was uploaded before. You need to add a link to original book in report.
10 Offensive Post - Not polite behaviour in forum. EDABoard is community of friends, it is not a place to spill out aggression.
Also you can make other reports when you need to attract moderator's attention to something wrong on the board.
Also you can explore Trashcan - that is a place to keep wrong posts. Examine them for criterions of wrong posts.
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forkschgrad
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| 28 May 2008 7:47 Re: post wrong answers |
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| why don't we have a poll?
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irfankundi
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| 28 May 2008 13:05 post wrong answers |
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| good suggestion
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cyberrat
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| 30 May 2008 14:58 post wrong answers |
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strawberries.
You could try a 32k resistor instead.
oops, wrong answers 
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gebepic
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| 18 Jun 2008 9:44 Re: post wrong answers |
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| Old Nick wrote: |
It can be vaguely annoying when you answer a question, only for someone else to give the exact same answer on the post a couple of hours later, paraphrased (as the OP says) with no acknowledgement and nothing extra added in way of explanation.
I've even have people tell me that my answer is wrong (when it's not), then 'correcting' it by giving exactly the same solution. This, must be one of the most cynical ways to steal someones 'helped' points.
But it's the people who chip in all the time with really vague stuff, and then ask for the OP to push the helped me button, that I find the most irritating.
I think people are correct sometimes when telling people to google stuff. People should really practise their research skills instead of asking for everything. I pretty much did some ones homework on here over a couple of days, incredibly basic stuff (working out the charge on a capacitor etc), I did, I think it was Q1 and Q 5 to start with as everything needed to complete the rest of the questions was in those two. Still he wanted more, I told him to google 'charge on a capacitor' and read to gain some insight into what he was doing. I did a further couple of questions for him and I'm yet to recieve a helped me.
There are a few other posters I've spent time with on their problems only for them to blame me etc. for their lack of understanding. They get no more help. You can usually tell spot them though, several hundred posts, and yet helped nobody.
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I FULLY endorse the above ....
Well put Old Nick !!! 
I had one of my posts trashed because I suggested to the originator to stick to one PROJECT (wich for any one project he does not know the first thing about it.)
I do not care about points,I am retired from servicing industrial electronics and have time and past experience to share,but I just for this one
had privately responded to the questions and the posts were different .
when I noticed that it was the same person ,I had to at least tell him my sentiment (sharing it in the forum)
If that is forbidden,I apologize to the moderator and I certainly will not report anything anymore nor making any comments,but before responding ,I certainly will check the initiator posts...
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Please do not increase my points ......nor ban me for this 
gebe
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| why don't we have a poll? |
Good Idea.
I suggest that we each make a list of what is allowed ,like
a simple token of appreciation note ,joined to the reported results from the question ....
a simple advise to do a simple search...
obvious actions usually ignored by some rudish demanding people who think the community owes them something (see Old Nick'quote)
This is only my opinion
Note: No points needed
I suggest that a Senior member initiate the poll (they know better)
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strawberries.
You could try a 32k resistor instead.
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You are Wrong !!
It must be a 33.5 k ! I am sure of it and that is final !!!
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