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mdusan
Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 5
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15 Jun 2007 8:05 em4095 |
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Hi,
I'm building RFID Reader with EM4095 and I want to implement loop PCB antenna. I was wondering if you can give me some guidelines for calculating the copper thickness, track width and width constraint and also number of loops and antenna dimensions.
Can you point me to some literature and calculation tool for building loop PCB antenna.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Dusan Mihajlovic
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DrunkBear
Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 108 Helped: 6 Location: HangZhou,China
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21 Jun 2007 7:39 em4095 antenna |
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i also tried to find some guide for these kind of antenna but in vain.
i suppose the parameters are not that rigid if the loop antenna is only used on near-field occasion because in such case a tiny electromagnetic field could be received by the reader.
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mdusan
Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 5
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21 Jun 2007 10:41 em4095.c |
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Hi,
I suppose that these parameters aren't actually so rigid but i have to calculate antenna L and Q factor in order to calculate values of capacitors needed in the antenna circuit.
Best regards.
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mmohdnor
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 11
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10 Jul 2007 9:59 rfid loop antenna |
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mdusan, what is the freq of the RFID?
have u found any solution yet?
i'm also trying to design a loop antenna, but it is for remote car key at 433.92mhz.
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mdusan
Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 5
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11 Jul 2007 9:22 em4095 problem |
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Hi,
the antenna frequency is 125KHz. Regarding the solution I didn't succeeded to calculate L and Q factor.
Best regards.
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mmohdnor
Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Posts: 11
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11 Jul 2007 14:54 calculate pcb antenna |
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mdusan, are u using any simulation software for the antenna?
(e.g : ADS/Momentum, HFSS, CST, etc)
what is ur current solution as of now? i mean, what have u done so far?
could u tell me more about ur application? (e.g: antenna size, dimension, range, etc)
actually i'm also having about the same problem like u. Still figuring out how to 'load' the antenna. So far what i did is i import the layout structure of the PCB and simulate the S11 of the antenna. Then, I just depend on the simulation software to optimize the value of the R,C, L so that I get the best S11 at my freq, 433.92MHz.
After that, I just test out the antenna with a simple range test. And measure the gain of the antenna.
But currently i'm still not able to simulate the full radiation pattern of the antenna together with lumped components ..
* I use ADS/Momentum, HFSS and a bit of CST..
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artem
Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 1652 Helped: 91 Location: Turan
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11 Jul 2007 15:37 em4095 pcb |
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| there was app note from microchip regarding 13.56 MHz loop antenna for rfid (some empiric calculations to get it done) . As it was suggested - the EM simulation soft can do that . Let say sonnet. I don't know feasibility of this solution as you need many turns due to higher inductance for 125 KHz .
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Joe_User
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 40 Helped: 4
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12 Jul 2007 13:30 rfid reader antenna dimension |
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| Not sure if this will help, but there is an application note on using sonnet for RFID applications here (there are two entries for RFID under "applications").
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mdusan
Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 5
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27 Jul 2007 11:12 em4095 anténa |
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Hi,
thanks for the information.
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mdusan, are u using any simulation software for the antenna?
(e.g : ADS/Momentum, HFSS, CST, etc)
what is ur current solution as of now? i mean, what have u done so far?
could u tell me more about ur application? (e.g: antenna size, dimension, range, etc)
actually i'm also having about the same problem like u. Still figuring out how to 'load' the antenna. So far what i did is i import the layout structure of the PCB and simulate the S11 of the antenna. Then, I just depend on the simulation software to optimize the value of the R,C, L so that I get the best S11 at my freq, 433.92MHz.
After that, I just test out the antenna with a simple range test. And measure the gain of the antenna.
But currently i'm still not able to simulate the full radiation pattern of the antenna together with lumped components ..
* I use ADS/Momentum, HFSS and a bit of CST.. |
I didn't used any simulation software. I will download some of the suggested and give it a try. I made a prototype with 16 turn PCB antenna, 20mil track width and 20mil spacing. Dimensions of the outer antenna turn are about the same as standard ISO Card. I'm waiting for the prototype and then I will do some testings and measurement.
Best regards.
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