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shah_jiii



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Post13 Apr 2007 10:42   how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

need help on the ability of WiMAX to change its modulation technique as distance from BS increases
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ricksidd



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Post13 Apr 2007 18:36   Re: how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

WiMAX system adjust the signal modulation and coding scheme on the basis of Signal to Noise ratio (SINR) condition of the radio link. When the radio link quality is high the highest modulation sceme and light coding is used giving the system more capacity. During a signal fade or long signal path the wiMAX system can shift to a lower order modulation sceme with heavier coding to maintain the connection quality and link stability.
So we have SNR = 22 dB the modulation is 64 QAM
SNR= 16 dB modulation 16 QAM
SNR= 9 dB modulation QPSK and
SNR = 6 dB modulation BPSK

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yasiranwar86



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Post19 Apr 2007 19:23   how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

sir can u give some more detail or link or some article related to modulation techniques
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ricksidd



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Post20 Apr 2007 18:26   Re: how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

The IEEE 802.16 standard speaks about this also
you can find various papers in this forum itself.......
Try to search for Adaptive Modulation for the conceptual understanding.

-Sidd
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darock



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Post21 Apr 2007 22:58   Re: how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

One question: How does the base station mesaure the SNR..
just by measuring its received power?
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ricksidd



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Post22 Apr 2007 13:59   Re: how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

Yes, for uplink SNR the Base station calculates SNR by received power while for downlink the subscriber station calculates and sends the requirement of its particular suitable burst profile....
Typical calculation can be --------
If Pr is received power in dBm then.
SNR(dB) = Pr(dBm) – No(dBm)
Where No (dBm) is the noise power in dBm, Assume, the carrier bandwidth is B, the receiver noise figure is F, the spectral efficiency is rb/B and the coding gain Gc
Then the SNR for coded modulation with data rate rb can be obtained by
SNR (dB)= 10 log[(Pr/No)x(rb/B)] -Gc
Where No (dBm) = -174(dBm) + 10 log B + F (dB)
Where Gc is normally considered as 5dB.

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ekh_81



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Post22 Apr 2007 23:01   how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

thank you ricksidd, could you give us any book or website containing informations about the calculation of SNR of WiMax

Many thanx
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admoon



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Post14 Aug 2008 17:40   how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

can you give me matlab code for how to change code rate and modulation scheme?

thanks
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bhq



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Post21 Aug 2008 13:44   Re: how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

Actually WiMax uses the technique of OFDM in which we have the Orthogonal frequencies to modulate oure data. Thats changes the technique of modulation in WiMAx
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marshalzhu



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Post03 Sep 2008 8:38   how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

bit loading decrease 1 per 3dB
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bilal_rajput



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Post09 Sep 2008 15:15   how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

is there any way to do a project on WiMAX but also in hardware related? n if posible, how much would it cost?
regards.
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Post18 Nov 2008 12:04   Re: how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

ekh_81 wrote:
thank you ricksidd, could you give us any book or website containing informations about the calculation of SNR of WiMax

Many thanx


h**p://www.esnips.com/doc/22406aa7-a327-4bbf-b3a4-f8e08fb71f0a/John.Wiley..Sons.WiMAX-Technology.for.Broadband.Wireless.Access.2007
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satish_mahankali



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Post25 Nov 2008 7:53   Re: how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

As far as I know the wimax std species mandatory modulation techniques as Qpsk(1/2,3/4) 16 QAM ,64qQAM ..

BS station species the modulation we are using which is the same for the whole frame.

suppose if u have a frame with 30 symbol duration the modulation scheme remains the same for all the symbols
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medaziz



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Post25 Nov 2008 12:10   Re: how WiMAX changes its modulation technique

Hi

If you have a frame with 30 symbols duration i think that the modulation scheme remains the same for all the symbols because logically and if we examine the OSI Model , frame will take delimitor in second layer (link)whereas the modulation will be in physical layer.

Added after 46 seconds:

Hi

If you have a frame with 30 symbols duration i think that the modulation scheme remains the same for all the symbols because logically and if we examine the OSI Model , frame will take delimitor in second layer (link)whereas the modulation will be in physical layer.

Added after 1 hours 47 minutes:

Hi

If you have a frame with 30 symbols duration i think that the modulation scheme remains the same for all the symbols because logically and if we examine the OSI Model , frame will take delimitor in second layer (link)whereas the modulation will be in physical layer.
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