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izua



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Post23 Feb 2007 1:15   A random generator schematic

Hi dudes!

I've searched the forum and googled for a while, but nothing really useful came in place. I'm looking for a few ideas that generate random noise/data, and in case of noise, a schematic to convert them to bits.

Has anyone made something like this before?

-izua
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IanP



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Post23 Feb 2007 1:31   Re: A random generator schematic

"Single-supply random code generator"

http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/Index.cfm?AD=1&ArticleID=6326

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tlihu



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Post23 Feb 2007 1:51   A random generator schematic

Is it possible to implement the circuit in IC? Any articles about practicle implementation of RNG in IC? TIA.
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izua



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Post23 Feb 2007 11:59   Re: A random generator schematic

thanks IanP!

I was wondering: is it possible to use flip-flops, for example, or nor/nand gates, putting them in a race condition? The differences between transistors will definitely have a word here, but are them good enough to provide a reliable entropy?

Another idea i was thinking of is getting an uninitialised memory location in a PIC, sending it, and then triggering a powerdown/powerup of the device.

What do you think?

-izua
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ldanielrosa



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Post25 Feb 2007 3:12   A random generator schematic

Yes, I have. I did it entirely in software on a PIC. It was random enough for me. What's your application?
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yangxh



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Post04 Mar 2007 15:45   Re: A random generator schematic

ldanielrosa wrote:
Yes, I have. I did it entirely in software on a PIC. It was random enough for me. What's your application?

Can you put on your application.
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ahmad_abdulghany



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Post04 Mar 2007 15:52   Re: A random generator schematic

tlihu wrote:
Is it possible to implement the circuit in IC? Any articles about practicle implementation of RNG in IC? TIA.


If you mean that u wanna design it as ASIC, it's absoulutely yes! it can be..
it can even been synthesized from normal FPGA flow..
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