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steven852



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Post28 Jul 2006 17:11   PrimeTime SI vs. Celtic
tags: celtic primetime si primetime celtic

Can someone give a quick outline of the difference between PrimeTime SI and Celtic?

Thanks in advance.
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stormwolf



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Post28 Jul 2006 18:24   PrimeTime SI vs. Celtic

I have heard from cadence sales, they said celtic first generate a timing file through a spice engine, so it timing more true than PT-SI.
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sarath51



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Post28 Jul 2006 18:26   Re: PrimeTime SI vs. Celtic

for noise analysis Celtic does a better job. so usually for Post route timing and Cross talk PT is used and for noise analysis Celtic is used
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shankarmit



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Post31 Jul 2006 19:07   Re: PrimeTime SI vs. Celtic

bot as used for signal integrity analysis... celtic is from cadence and pt si from synopsys....

In general celtic is better in signal integrity..
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rakeshnunna



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Post01 Aug 2006 8:05   Re: PrimeTime SI vs. Celtic

People familiar with PT will find using PT-SI easy to learn and use.Its a good tool as well. Celtic is very good for noise analysis but little bit difficult to learn and use.

In the end it depend s upon the project needs like technology you are working, which
company flow you are using, and rampup time you are having
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p_shinde



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Post01 Aug 2006 8:30   Re: PrimeTime SI vs. Celtic

one Q on noise analysis, one should first wrok on aggressor or victim in an affected circuit...........using CeltIC????????????

thanks,
Prasad
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shankarmit



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Post07 Aug 2006 12:37   Re: PrimeTime SI vs. Celtic

mostly victim .. because if u try to move aggressive it may affect at some other place..... it all depends on the metal available to move or sheiding can be done..



Regards
Shankar
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jitendra



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Post11 Aug 2006 3:08   Re: PrimeTime SI vs. Celtic

Run time is one more concern to make choice between PT-SI and PT with CeltIC.
PT-SI takes longer time.
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