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gravi

Joined: 30 May 2006
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Location: Hyderabad, India

21 Jun 2006 8:24 Sim300

Hi Everybody,
Is here any one working on SIM300 if so, is there any thing to be added other than the circuit provided in Schematics provided in Ver 2.02. Because I getting RDY after Power on but it's not detecting sim card when sim card is placed. I have used 6 pin simcard holder and sim presence pin is grounded using 10K pull down resister.Do i need to set any thing else using AT commands or any other Hardware required.

Thankyou,
Ravi

tramp

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21 Jun 2006 10:03 Re: Sim300

gravi wrote:

Hi Ravi,

Exactly same problem I am facing with sim300 it gets power on properly(LED blink 64ms on/800ms off ut not get registered to network (LEd blink 64ms on/300ms off)
I have send mail to simcom about this problem & waiting for reply.Please inform me if u find root cause.

tramp

gravi

Joined: 30 May 2006
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Location: Hyderabad, India

21 Jun 2006 11:26 Re: Sim300

Hi tramp
Did u get voltage external and SIM VDD. Im getting Both EXT_VDD and SimVDD after power on but Sim VDD is droping after 40sec Automatically. I guess my problem will be solved if SimVDD remains constant.

Thankyou,
Ravi.

pisoiu

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21 Jun 2006 11:39 Re: Sim300

What is the voltage on sim presence pin with 10k pulldown?

/pisoiu

gravi

Joined: 30 May 2006
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21 Jun 2006 13:13 Re: Sim300

Hi Pisoiu
I have tested the module with Presence pin
1.pulled down through 10k resistor .
2. Directly grounded.
3. NC
Here are the voltages with respect to the above mentioned conditions
1. when sim presence is pulled down through 10k resistor after powr on I found 0.14mv and when it reached 0.8mv I received messsage CPIN:Not Ready.

2. when sim presence is Directly grounded after powr on I found 0.14mv and when it reached 0.1mv I received messsage CPIN:Not Ready.

3. when sim presence is NC after powr on I found 0.65mv and when it reached 0.45mv I received messsage CPIN:Not Ready.

Note: Immediately after power on Every Time Im Receiving CPIN:Ready

Thankyou,
Ravi.

tramp

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21 Jun 2006 16:39 Re: Sim300

I observed attached wavefom ofSIMVDD pin on DSO which remains permanent low after 220msec. In normal case it should go high as soon as it get poweron pulse in presence of simcard & antenna.

tramp

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gravi

Joined: 30 May 2006
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22 Jun 2006 5:19 Re: Sim300

tramp wrote:

I observed attached wavefom ofSIMVDD pin on DSO which remains permanent low after 220msec. In normal case it should go high as soon as it get poweron pulse in presence of simcard & antenna.

tramp

tramp

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22 Jun 2006 7:06 Re: Sim300

Hi Tramp,
Good Morning, are you getting RDY,as soon as you power on, if not your Modem is with auto Bauding so you need to fix baude rate according to your convenience using AT commands

AT+IPR=x;(ENTER)
OK;
AT&W(ENTER)
OK;
I guess this may will help you to solve your problem.

Thanking you,
Ravi[/quote]

Hi Ravi,
I dont get RDY massage during power on . I have already change baudrate to 1200 using above command.But I get massage "NORMAL POWER DOWN" before going to power off.

Did your reply for command AT+CSDT=0 ? It is a command for enabling/desabling simcard detection.

Regards,
tramp

Added after 28 minutes:

Hi ravi,
Did u get high signal on SIMVDD pin?

tramp

gravi

Joined: 30 May 2006
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Location: Hyderabad, India

22 Jun 2006 8:22 Re: Sim300

Hi Tramp,
Check the input voltage to modem, it should be greater than 3.6V-4.5 and it,s better to maintain 4.2V.

you will get an message saying "NORMAL POWER DOWN" only when you give "AT+CPOWD" commanding modem to shut down through software and before getting shut down it sends an message reporting "NORMAL POWER DOWN". you can find the behaviour of SIM VDD along with SIM PRESENCE pin and this behavour is very clearly explained in my previous reply to Mr. pisoiu. AT+CSDT command is used to Know whether Sim has been placed or not(which does'nt comes to picture right know). verify hardware design document Ver2.02 pdf
and AT commands documents Ver1.04 pdf which are available on net.

Thankyou,
Ravi

tramp

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22 Jun 2006 14:13 Re: Sim300

gravi wrote:

I am oprating sim300 on 4V & hardware is as per given in design document Ver2.02 & I don't think there is as much problem form hardware side.As per ur reply to pisoiu , he has ask u abuot status of SIMpresence Pin & u have mention about signal level of SIMpresence Pin .But if that signal levels are for SIMVDD pin that means SIMVDD is not generating in your case also.

Regards,
tramp

tramp

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24 Jun 2006 8:40 Re: Sim300

Did anyone using SIM300 eavalution board(SIM300 EVB attached herewith)?Is it working perfectly.

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ds18s20

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28 Jun 2006 0:03 Re: Sim300

Good question - how do you guys hookup your SIM 300 module? It is soooo small and that connector is SMD?

Is there some kind of breakout board for SIM 300?

gravi

Joined: 30 May 2006
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28 Jun 2006 6:39 Re: Sim300

Got PCB designed especially for that Connector.

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Got PCB designed especially for that Connector.

ds18s20

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28 Jun 2006 6:55 Re: Sim300

gravi wrote:

Got PCB designed especially for that Connector.

Added after 39 seconds:

Got PCB designed especially for that Connector.

Cool! With or without the connector, and how do I get it? Actually I would probably need 2, just in case an 'accident' happens Smile

I havent had the time to attempt to solder it - and probably thats for the better cuz it does look super small and my Weller will defenitely NOT do for this kind of work, so do tell us about that magic PCB! Pleazzzze,

Thanks
~B

pisoiu

Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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28 Jun 2006 7:24 Re: Sim300

You can solder it with almost any station, but definetely you'll need a pcb with solder mask, some flux material, very well controlled ammounts of solder material, and what's most important : good hand and experience. You can also solder it with hot air station, but you'll have to be carefull, the plastic from the connector is very sensitive to overheating. It is not impossible.

/pisoiu

ds18s20

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28 Jun 2006 23:20 Re: Sim300

pisoiu wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the reply. I am sure it is NOT impossible but you dont know me Smile

I would rather not test my skills on a 65 bucks worth of a toy, and instead I am happy to spend few more bucks for a breakout board. I dont expect it to work right off the bad but at least I will know the issue is not with my crappy soldering skills.

If you know of any breakout board please do tell us - it will be of great help for the less-than-gods around here

Thanks
~B

pisoiu

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29 Jun 2006 0:09 Sim300

I am sorry, but I don't know any breakout board. All the tests I've done on it were with thin wires soldered directly on the connector, without any pcb. After the tests completion, I've made a PCB for it.
You don't have to test your skills on the modem, in the worst case, if you don't have experience with such fine pitch, you'll destroy one connector, which worth far less. You have another choice, I am convinced that in any GSM repair shop you'll find somebody to solder it for you, but you'll need the PCB.

/pisoiu

ds18s20

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29 Jun 2006 0:13 Re: Sim300

pisoiu wrote:

Ok, I am convinced - are you selling the PCB you have just made? If yes PM me and will work something out. I really want to get a fabricated PCB rather than trying to figure the whole Eagle thing myself and deal with fabrication, and then even if I get it done with no errors - solder paste and reflow toaster oven seems like yet another project Smile

If I could just buy the PCB I will be a happy camper!

gravi

Joined: 30 May 2006
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Location: Hyderabad, India

11 Jul 2006 11:34 Re: Sim300

HI Everybody,

Is here anybody working on SIM300. my module is loosing SIM_VDD after 40 sec onds(CPIN:NOT READY) Is there any command to be executed.

Thanking you,
Ravi

ds18s20

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11 Jul 2006 20:50 Re: Sim300

gravi wrote:

HI Everybody,

Is here anybody working on SIM300. my module is loosing SIM_VDD after 40 sec onds(CPIN:NOT READY) Is there any command to be executed.
Thanking you,
Ravi

Hey Ravi

How about that board? If I get one I will try it out with my module and let you know Smile

wclee

Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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23 Jul 2006 5:40 Sim300

anyone selling this sim 300?

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anyone selling this sim 300?

prd

Joined: 13 May 2003
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23 Jul 2006 17:58 Re: Sim300

I ever controlled Sim300 EVB via hyper terminal on PC.

Every time I power up the module, it can register with the network.

There are some command, related to communication through gsm network, have to wait for little time after power up before it can be used.

prd.

ds18s20

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03 Aug 2006 20:04 Re: Sim300

prd wrote:

Hey prd

Where did you get your EVB from? I am looking for one but cant find a source to sell me the darn board?

Thanks
~B

prd

Joined: 13 May 2003
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08 Aug 2006 12:22 Re: Sim300

Hi ds18s20,

In my case, I contact excelpoint, see following link for office near you.
http://www.excelpoint.com/offices.html

Otherwise, ask Simcom for vendors to contact, http://www.sim.com/contactus/contact.html

prd

gravi

Joined: 30 May 2006
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Location: Hyderabad, India

16 Aug 2006 7:39 Re: Sim300

Hi PRD,
Can you let me know your problem clearly,I have working successfully on SIM300 after a couple off months.

Thanking you,
Ravi.

tramp

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24 Aug 2006 10:12 Re: Sim300

gravi wrote:

Hi PRD,
Can you let me know your problem clearly,I have working successfully on SIM300 after a couple off months.

Thanking you,
Ravi.

Hi gravi,
How did u solve your prblem?
Regards,
tramp

gravi

Joined: 30 May 2006
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Location: Hyderabad, India

25 Aug 2006 10:56 Re: Sim300

Hi Tramp,
I have designed the modem as per the schematics in ver2.0, previously I neglected to groung body. If you tell me your problem I can suggest you.

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Hi Tramp,
I have designed the modem as per the schematics in ver2.0, previously I neglected to groung body. If you tell me your problem I can suggest you.

tramp

Joined: 06 Aug 2005
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25 Aug 2006 14:37 Re: Sim300

gravi wrote:

Hi Tramp,
I have designed the modem as per the schematics in ver2.0, previously I neglected to groung body. If you tell me your problem I can suggest you.

Added after 1 minutes:

Hi gravi,
Thanks for your reply.I have attached interfacing circuit herewith.Problem observed that it get power on properly,but not get registered to network even though there is simcard (6 pin simcard holder) & antenna.also it is observed that Simvdd Pin does'nt go high(2.8V)after putting simcard.

Regards,
tramp

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pisoiu

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25 Aug 2006 15:17 Re: Sim300

I advise you to replace C4 with a 100uF/10V (at least), low esr type. On the PCB, make sure the traces between C4 and module pins are short and thick. The module may fail to register if you have high amplitude spikes on vdd pin during emission, check this with a scope and attach a capture if you can. This problem may occur if you have a poor quality antenna (high VSWR).

/pisoiu

gravi

Joined: 30 May 2006
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28 Aug 2006 8:16 Re: Sim300

Hi Tramp,
Design your module as per the data sheet's I'm attaching be very carefull with ground,s and don't forgot to ground body. Use power on circuit from page 6 difference between sim300 and sim100 pdf.

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