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tiger_ads



Joined: 17 Jun 2005
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Post13 Dec 2005 11:20   

dipole rfid 900mhz


hi guys
i have confused by setuping port type in ADS momentum. by help document, i can define the port as differential type , and associate each other. but i can't do it with my dipole antenna, illustrating as following:
i can simulate it with internal port type, but i can't decide which type should i use?
another question, this RFID is encapsuled with PVC, and the antenna is printed on PET(a very thin "paper"), i set the substrate as follow:
////freespace////
////PVC/////
///stip cond///
///PET////
///PVC///
///freespace///
am i right?

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flyflyhigh



Joined: 23 Oct 2004
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Post13 Dec 2005 13:47   

ads rfid antenna


please upload your project file.
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foxman



Joined: 28 Mar 2002
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Post14 Dec 2005 1:15   

ads rfid


tiger_ads wrote:
hi guys
i have confused by setuping port type in @DS momentum. by help document, i can define the port as differential type , and associate each other. but i can't do it with my dipole antenna, illustrating as following:
i can simulate it with internal port type, but i can't decide which type should i use?
another question, this RFID is encapsuled with PVC, and the antenna is printed on PET(a very thin "paper"), i set the substrate as follow:
////freespace////
////PVC/////
///stip cond///
///PET////
///PVC///
///freespace///
am i right?

yes your right, but port setting as follow;
in dipole antenna design port_1 "Port Type" ought to internal, port_2 "Port Type" setting to "Ground Refernce"...."Associate with port number" Assign to "1" (<= port_1)..

you can run it...


thanks
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ADS_RFMW



Joined: 18 Aug 2005
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Post14 Dec 2005 5:45   

900mhz rfid


It is very difficult to comment based on fig. you have attached.
attach your ADS project files.so that we will try in helping you.
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tiger_ads



Joined: 17 Jun 2005
Posts: 56


Post14 Dec 2005 15:02   

Re: 900MHz RFID antenna using ADS


thanks for your help!!
the two project is different, but for one type RFID, i just want to know their input impedance. the layout 2 can be defined as differential port type, but the layout1 can't , there is always an error!
and i want to know, which port type should i define so that i can get the actual input impedance? differential or internal plus ground refference? the result is different from each other!
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Buenrostro



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
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Post18 Dec 2007 19:51   

900MHz RFID antenna using ADS


Yes, i have set the port 1 as an internal and port 2 as a Ground Reference, and it works. But remember the you have to set the port's impedance to be complex due the RFID chips are different than 50ohms
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wforest6810



Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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Location: Beijing,China


Post05 Nov 2009 19:42   

Re: 900MHz RFID antenna using ADS


To Buenrostro:

I have tested your suggestion,but the result is error
your port`s define is right,but two port cannot define as photo,i do not know how to define the ports,can you tell me?
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kspalla



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Post06 Nov 2009 12:01   

900MHz RFID antenna using ADS


You need to consider the interface between antenna to the circuit, which is missing here.
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wforest6810



Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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Post16 Nov 2009 11:35   

Re: 900MHz RFID antenna using ADS


kspalla wrote:
You need to consider the interface between antenna to the circuit, which is missing here.


Do i consider the interface between antenna to the circuit?

Why???
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