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moisiad



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Post26 Sep 2005 15:15   

Behavioral models of Analog Blocks in Spectre - AMS


Hi

I am using both Spectre and AMS simulators. In order to run some fast simulations in large systems (e.g. PLL) i want to import some behavioral descriptions of basic circuits (PFD, Freq. divider).

As far as i know there are several "languages" in describing analog circuits (VerilogA, VerilogAMS, SpectreHDL). Can you please inform me for the following items:
1) Which of them are compatible with the above mentioned simulators?
2) Is there any tool to generate a behavioral description from schematic, or do i have to write the code?
3) Is is easy to modify a given behavioral description to an other (are there any tools) or it is done by hand.

Thanks
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sunking



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Post27 Sep 2005 3:36   

Behavioral models of Analog Blocks in Spectre - AMS


1. sepctre support all
2. you can write the code or
the lib ahdl include many example
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pi331133



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Post05 Oct 2005 14:07   

Behavioral models of Analog Blocks in Spectre - AMS


There is a good sample uder the cadence installation directory/tools/dfII/rfLib, you can read the SpectreRF user guide first. This user guide discuss how to use Spectre/SpectreRF to simulate RF circuit and system in detail, there is also an example for behavioral simulation for PLL, with Verilog Language. I think you'd better refer to this first.
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skal81



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Post05 Oct 2005 15:39   

Re: Behavioral models of Analog Blocks in Spectre - AMS


You can visit the following site http://www.designers-guide.org/VerilogAMS/. You'll find documentation, exemples, theorical articles.
BTW, I'm not sure but I think VerilogAMS needs a special licence, different from the Spectre licence. You should check it.
There is also a model generator in Cadence, but I never used it. I think it helps you get your code right.
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tlihu



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Post12 Oct 2005 8:38   

Behavioral models of Analog Blocks in Spectre - AMS


Does Cadence support VHDL-AMS?
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eda4you



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Post12 Oct 2005 8:41   

Re: Behavioral models of Analog Blocks in Spectre - AMS


tlihu wrote:
Does Cadence support VHDL-AMS?


YES Very Happy
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eng_Semi



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Post12 Oct 2005 13:32   

Re: Behavioral models of Analog Blocks in Spectre - AMS


U also can use the verilog-A and verilog-AMS BUT u have to write the code, or u can use the pcell od generating the codes.
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rfsystem



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Post12 Oct 2005 15:24   

Re: Behavioral models of Analog Blocks in Spectre - AMS


VHDL-AMS for AMS Designer is planned but not released
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kjjian



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Post02 Dec 2005 15:54   

Behavioral models of Analog Blocks in Spectre - AMS


plllib in cadence has some examples
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