Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

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woshifanka

Joined: 13 Jun 2005
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13 Aug 2005 6:01 four square antenna

hi all , i am doing some research of four square antenna modeling .
i wanna do the antenna model with HFSS ,but meet some troubles .
anyone can do this model ? the top view and side view of the antenna ,and the paremeters are all in the pics .
i will appreciate your help .
my email is : fanqikai(at)163.com

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woshifanka

Joined: 13 Jun 2005
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29 Aug 2005 15:14 4 square antenna

nobody can help me ?

goxy

Joined: 25 Jul 2002
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31 Aug 2005 14:56 hfss antenna mode

I think picture is not giid, this is not coaxial feed and solder point is not clear. Can you check sourse of this design. I know this antenna type but better to check. For modeling adn IE3D and HFSS are good, maybe IE3D are some faster in calculatiing.

rautio

Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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Location: North Syracuse, NY

31 Aug 2005 23:51 how to build a four square antenna

I have no way to look at what you posted, but if you are talking about the four-square antenna that is 4 vertical antennas phased switched for different directions and usually used for HF work, you want to get a wire MoM code, NOT a volume meshing code, and NOT a surface meshing code. For very little expense, and in some cases, free, you should get one or another of the many many versions of NEC or MiniNEC. For example, check the adverts in QST magazine, or just Google it. The NEC and MiniNEC codes are quick and accurate for wire type antennas.

woshifanka

Joined: 13 Jun 2005
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01 Sep 2005 9:29 4-square antenna

thanks for your advices firstly .
as i am bad in programming , i want to simulate it use hfss ( as now i use hfss only), i have drawed a modle .but it is not right in results as the theis . maybe i made a wrong a model . but i hope anyone can do it use HFSS or ie3d ( now i use hfss only)

jian

Joined: 08 Sep 2003
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01 Sep 2005 16:51 4 square nec file

Hi, Woshifanka: Please send your drawing to me at jian(at)zeland.com. I can build an IE3D model for you. It should be simple on both modeling and simulation for a 4-patch array. Regards.

woshifanka

Joined: 13 Jun 2005
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02 Sep 2005 12:41 Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

hi jian:
i onle made a hfss model ,and it seems to be wrong.

jian

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02 Sep 2005 16:35 Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

Please send me the drawing and I can build an IE3D model for you. Regards.

woshifanka

Joined: 13 Jun 2005
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04 Sep 2005 4:14 Re: Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

hi jian :
i send my email to you , and it is : fanqikai(at)163.com
do you get it ?

jian

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05 Sep 2005 19:00 Re: Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

Hi, Fanka: I just e-mailed you the IE3D model and result. Regards.

woshifanka

Joined: 13 Jun 2005
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06 Sep 2005 12:43 Re: Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

hi jian: i've got it . many thanks .
best
fanka

gunajraman

Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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23 Sep 2005 4:35 Re: Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

has anyone done four tear antenna simulation ?

habib83

Joined: 08 Mar 2005
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29 Nov 2005 17:12 Re: Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

hi,
the attached file is the mentioned antenna design in HFSS.
regards.

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woshifanka

Joined: 13 Jun 2005
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30 Nov 2005 4:58 Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

Dear habib83
thank you very much .
and i find you use the "discrete" instead of "fast" solver. if i want to run the hfss file quickly , can i use "fast" ? and which setting would be more right?
regards
kaka

BrunoK

Joined: 10 Jan 2005
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01 Dec 2005 2:15 Re: Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

Woshifanka did the model in IE3D work?? Can u possoble send it to me? Im testing differnet design in IE3D, and as Jian seems to be an I expert I would like to try a model whych should work.
Best Regards

jian

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01 Dec 2005 2:27 Re: Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

Hi, Brunok: I am not sure whether I uploaded the model here (I certainly have sent it to Fanka before). Here is the model again.

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woshifanka

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01 Dec 2005 8:07 Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

Dear Jian :
thank you for you model again .
i make a pm to you , plz check, as the email sever refused me .
rgz
kaka

jian

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01 Dec 2005 17:17 Re: Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

Hi, Fanka: I am not quite sure why the e-mail server refused you. I already replied to you on the private message. Thanks!

pike

Joined: 15 Sep 2009
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15 Sep 2009 9:28 Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

I also face the same problem, the result simulated by HFSS are not as same as the one on the thesis. Is any one kindly help me? Thanks

panda.asit

Joined: 27 Apr 2009
Posts: 7
Location: india

16 Sep 2009 6:23 Re: Four square antenna simulation with hfss (or ie3d)

Hi, Fanka:

this asit also desising on four square array antenna using ie3d

if u could send me the ie3d design file of four square simulation antenna , it will be great ful for designing my antenna

my id is panda.asit(at)gmail.com

prior thanks

asit

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woshifanka wrote:

hi jian: i've got it . many thanks .
best
fanka