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Comparision of SC filter and GmC filter in audio frequency


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hebu



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Post28 Jun 2005 15:20   

sc filter


In IC implementation and audio frequency application. SC or GmC has the
better dynamic range?
Consider the flicker noise, thermal noise, linearity. And, the filters are same
type.
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eda4you



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Post28 Jun 2005 15:41   

gm-c filter


hebu wrote:
In IC implementation and audio frequency application. SC or GmC has the
better dynamic range?
Consider the flicker noise, thermal noise, linearity. And, the filters are same
type.


Hallo Hebu!

SC is the much better choice! SC has better linearity, the flicker and low frequ. noise can be cancelled using correlated double sampling or choppering. With SC you can just get DR as high as 120dB, while gmC has mabye the half!
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hebu



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Post29 Jun 2005 14:38   

gm-c filters


Usually, what's the clock frequency in audio application?

How I define the requirement of clock frequency, anti-aliasing filter, and smoothing filter?

Thanks,
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mists



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Post30 Jun 2005 4:46   

noise in sc filter


the audio frequency is not larger than 192k( in general it is 48k), so the clock frequency just rely on the oversampling ratio in you system. 12.288M is usually used frequency.
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hebu



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Post30 Jun 2005 5:20   

sc filter


If we want to make a Req such as 1M ohms high, Req=T/C.
And the clock freq is as high as 10MHz, the C should be 0.1pF.
Is this realiable size in 0.35um IC implementation?
Or, anything I missed?
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eda4you



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Post01 Jul 2005 9:38   

gm-c filter latest application


hebu wrote:
If we want to make a Req such as 1M ohms high, Req=T/C.
And the clock freq is as high as 10MHz, the C should be 0.1pF.
Is this realiable size in 0.35um IC implementation?
Or, anything I missed?


Yes, 100fF is no problem. BUT the noise (= k*Temp/C) may be to large.

I would say caps like 1pF is more suitable.
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sgperzoid



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Post01 Jul 2005 10:36   

filter sc gmc


hebu wrote:
If we want to make a Req such as 1M ohms high, Req=T/C.
And the clock freq is as high as 10MHz, the C should be 0.1pF.
Is this realiable size in 0.35um IC implementation?
Or, anything I missed?


100fF is already the minimum value of mimcap for 0.18um CMOS
I think for 0.35, maybe it is higher, you may check it easily

for smaller value, you can put capacitor in serial or using MOS dummy cap
but the accuracy degraded, I think this is fatal for analog filter...
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hebu



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Post04 Jul 2005 15:28   

what is gmc filter


Two questions,
1. how about the 100fF cap to tolerate the charge injection?
2. If a switch cap ckt needs to be made a precise matching between 0.5fF and
50pF, is it possible?
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