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Jason-dong
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 10 Dec 2004 11:25 Are you interested in China? |
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Hi Friends,
I can give you some help if you want to get more information about China (market/products). Of course, I am a China man. I have been working for a worldwide semiconductor company for many years, my work is embedded system programming and customer (home appliance/industrial/communication) support.
Hope to receive your message!
Jason 
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orikfa
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| 10 Dec 2004 16:10 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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Nihao,
I'm very interested in China's market,
What are the most promising market areas in which high gains business may be started?
What have to do a foreign business man to start and hold such types of business?
Is chinese language learning a must or not?
duoxie
zaijian
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EDAgirl
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| 13 Dec 2004 5:46 Are you interested in China? |
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orikfa, you are good.
Of course, it's better if you can say Chinese, but it's not necessary, because many Chinese persons can communicate with you in English.
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eltonjohn
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| 13 Dec 2004 6:23 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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| Hi FRIEND .. i have a question about the china regulation on INTELECTUAL PROPERTY. If i decided to PRODUCE in CHINA how can i PROTECT my product from NOT GETTING COPIED .A friend told me that for a foreigner is hard to NAVIGATE the chineese BUROCRACY .. Is better to have a PARTNER there ?
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Jason-dong
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| 14 Dec 2004 8:25 Are you interested in China? |
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Hi Orikfa,
1, Maybe you have heard the cities of Beijing, Shanghai or Shenzhen, they are the most promising market in which high gains business may be started.
2, Studying the government's policy can help you to start your business. Because the government encourage Hi-Tech project or business. Please see the yearly CHINA HI-TECH FAIR in Shenzhen. http://www.chtf.com/english/index.jsp
3, About learning Chinese or not, EDAgirl is right.
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xzl
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| 14 Dec 2004 8:33 Are you interested in China? |
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| yes, in chian, lots of people can speake english
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Jason-dong
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| 14 Dec 2004 8:39 Are you interested in China? |
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Hi Eltonjohn,
Below is from State Office of Intellectual Property Protection, it is helpful?
http://ipr.mofcom.gov.cn/article/200411/20041100300620_1.xml
http://ipr.mofcom.gov.cn/article/200411/20041100304009_1.xml
http://ipr.mofcom.gov.cn/article/200411/20041100300636_1.xml
For your last question, finding a parterner is a very good choice for you.
Rgds,
Jason
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KamenRider
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| 14 Dec 2004 9:01 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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Hi Jason,
I have been in the American ASIC industry for more than 12 years, right now I am working on a contract in Japan doing ASIC/ASCP designs as well.
My friends in China have been trying to invite me to start a design center in China, how hard/easy do you think that is? And I am also not sure where to look for good designers to help me.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
By the way, I am half-Chinese, so I speak ok Chinese.
Have a nice day.
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Jason-dong
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| 14 Dec 2004 9:29 Are you interested in China? |
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Hi KamenRider,
Nice to meet you.
Now it is very easy to open a IC design company in China (for example in Shenzhen) with less money.
There are some many designers in the human resources market. But most of them have no so much designing experiences. They need the expert's direction, can only be the engineers from the start point.
Here is a domestic company for your reference:
http://www.chipsbank.com.cn/en/index.htm (the boss was back from the sillicon valley of USA)
Rgds,
Jason
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KamenRider,
Just give your ideas to the engineers, they can do anything for you. They need professional direction.
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KamenRider
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| 15 Dec 2004 9:38 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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Hi Jason,
Thanks for the link. I actually went to this building during May of this year. It is a incubation building, isn't it? A lot of the companies there are partially funded by the government. I met a few of the CEOs and they are mostly engineers who "returned" from US.
So, do you think it will be a good location to open a design center? Or do you think I should consider Shanghai or Beijing?
Thanks.
KamenRider (David)
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Jason-dong
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| 15 Dec 2004 10:50 Are you interested in China? |
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Hi KamenRider,
Yes, it is. I think you should choose a city who can give you the freedom and help.
Jason
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orikfa
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| 16 Dec 2004 12:48 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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What is the medium cost of life in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen?
What are the best and most promising HI-Tech sectors in which start a business: electronics, mechanics, telecom,...? even in a future perspective.
In the above cities, is better to start a stand alone enterprise or a joint venture with an holding located , for instance, in Europe or USA?
I know a basic Chinese grammar, do you can suggest me good books with which study intermediate/advanced grammar?
xiexie
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qutang
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| 17 Dec 2004 12:09 Are you interested in China? |
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| China has a big macket.
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skywolf
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| 17 Dec 2004 13:35 Are you interested in China? |
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Hi Orikaf,
If you want to learn Chinese well,you must practise listening and speaking.
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Maverickmax
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| 17 Dec 2004 16:56 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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Greeting
Do you know any good company sells cheap electronic components such as IC chips, solid wire, vero-board, resistors, capacitors, microcontroller chips, etc in China?
Kind regards
Maverickmax
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SolarTorch
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| 17 Dec 2004 17:09 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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| AS I know Shanghai has a lot of semiconductor fab. Can you tell me the market situation about the semicon industrial in SH?
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Pipeline
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| 17 Dec 2004 17:14 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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| There is a good fab in Shanghai now, but no well-known fabless design house there.
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Jason-dong
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| 22 Dec 2004 5:41 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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| orikfa wrote: |
What is the medium cost of life in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen?
What are the best and most promising HI-Tech sectors in which start a business: electronics, mechanics, telecom,...? even in a future perspective.
In the above cities, is better to start a stand alone enterprise or a joint venture with an holding located , for instance, in Europe or USA?
I know a basic Chinese grammar, do you can suggest me good books with which study intermediate/advanced grammar?
xiexie |
Hi Orikfa,
1, About the cost of life in above cities, I found this table for you, sorry it is chinese version. 北京-->Beijing, 上海-->Shanghai, 深圳-->Shenzhen
2, I think the most promising Hi-Tech sectors in which start a business: IC design, EDA tools/system, wireless, telecom device, automobile(platform/software), digital homeappliance(digital TV, digital broadcasting), industrial network, IPv6, etc.
3, A stand alone enterprise and a joint venture with an holding have no so much difference in above cities. The key point is that what you will bring to China from foreign countries. I suggest you have to hire some professional local managemant persons.
4, Sorry, I know too less to better grammar. But I suggest you can have a language course when you come to China, and get some useful information from the teachers.
Best Rgds,
Jason
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Greeting
Do you know any good company sells cheap electronic components such as IC chips, solid wire, vero-board, resistors, capacitors, microcontroller chips, etc in China?
Kind regards
Maverickmax |
Hi Maverickmax,
There is an almost the chinese biggest electronic component market in Shenzhen. I think you can find everything(cheap) you want. It is enough? Please contact me freely if you want more information.
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !
Jason
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IanP
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| 22 Dec 2004 5:52 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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"Are you interested in China?"
Less and less..
It has been 18 months since we supplied equipment to China goverment department and half of the money is still outstanding...
Specifications given in the beginning were changed several times as if they didn't know what they wanted or didn't want to be to specific or didn't want to take reponsibilty... difficult to explain.
People who want to do business witch China should first study cuture differencies to better undestand why they behave in this way..
Better do it before you go..not after.. I did that mistake......!!!!
Season's Greetings
IanP[/quote]
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Jason-dong
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| 22 Dec 2004 6:45 Are you interested in China? |
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| It is a difficult things to do business with government even to us. So it is more important to find a business partner. You properly heard the word "relationship", right, it is the key point to China business. Anyway, China is becoming a huge and attractive market for all of the world. The original unstable stage is necessary, you can see that everything is becoming better and better, moreover, it means opportunities!
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orikfa
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| 22 Dec 2004 10:54 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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thanks for the hints, Jason-dong
Do you have any idea on glass packaging market trends in China?
zaijian
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Pipeline
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| 23 Dec 2004 1:18 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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| Only a market or trend to be a R&D center?
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neuralc
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| 23 Dec 2004 1:45 Are you interested in China? |
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Hi all,
In my vision: What is the most attracting aspect of the China market is the low cost for production… many times we can find products ten times cheaper than similar products built in Europe or USA. So, produce in China to ship worldwide is actually a common task of large companies. The main question is: how many time this philosophy can last? To achieve low prices, its needed to get bad quality products, people earning very low salaries, and many other collateral factors with effects in long time terms (like ambient care policies)...
Chinese friends, my comments aren’t in the bad sense, but what Hi can see thought the media is that Chinese people are some kind of slave, with a heavy g.overnment, and all this politics of low salaries -> low cost products don’t guides you to a better life….
NeuralC
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Jason-dong
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| 24 Dec 2004 2:42 Are you interested in China? |
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I think not only the low cost for production, China is also a very big market. Right?
More and more people use the products produced in China. "bad quality" can not explain this, low salaries is because of the low cost of life.
I have to tell that you know too less about China!
Jason
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Nobody can stop China's growing up and internationalization. hehe
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Pipeline
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| 24 Dec 2004 5:39 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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| In fact, you can find a lot of productions made in China in US, but what are they? Generally, clothing, toys, shoes, and these kind of stuffs. In other words, they are things having little to do with high-tech. Yes, these things can bring profits for China in a short time, but what's the next? If this lasts for a long time, I can say that China would not benefit from it in a long run.
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oxford
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| 26 Dec 2004 5:07 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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It's easy to find a job in China, but you may find that you
can not have a good life there.
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amjad
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| 26 Dec 2004 6:22 Are you interested in China? |
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Hi
I had been to china several times. There is good english speking peoples ,but to do business it is better to understand and communicate in chineese language.Also their cultre. The cost of living is slow in china and because lowe salary.But alll chineese labourers are not having a comfortable living standards like western countries. Working is not for food alone. The living standard of the labourers has to improved still further to produce better quality products.
If chineese governement and companies pay attention to this ,then with its huge resources
of man material it can serve the whole world.
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farhada
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| 26 Dec 2004 7:03 Are you interested in China? |
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Hi,
I am looking for Chinese companies who sell electronic components, CAPS, Resisstors etc in 1000s, do you know any company in China who deals with "small" quantities?
Really appreciate your help,
/Farhad
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Jason-dong
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| 28 Dec 2004 2:40 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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| farhada wrote: |
Hi,
I am looking for Chinese companies who sell electronic components, CAPS, Resisstors etc in 1000s, do you know any company in China who deals with "small" quantities?
Really appreciate your help,
/Farhad |
Yes, there are so many booths in the electronics market (赛格/Saige) of Shenzhen.
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eco
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| 28 Dec 2004 16:58 Re: Are you interested in China? |
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Hi NeuralC,
Yes it's true that China is attractive partly because you can make products with much lower cost than in Europe or USA. People in China are earning relatively lower salaries, and living relatively worse lives. That's true.
However, you also have to understand the meaning of "catching up", which can not be accomplished in a minute, and have to be done step by step. Selling non-tech products into international market is what China is doing now, and is what she is doing now in order to sell high-tech products tomorrow.
Another suggestion, never believe in media. Believe in what you see and what you think. Anyway, welcome to China, the cost here is still low right now. =)
Regards,
eco
| neuralc wrote: |
Hi all,
In my vision: What is the most attracting aspect of the China market is the low cost for production… many times we can find products ten times cheaper than similar products built in Europe or USA. So, produce in China to ship worldwide is actually a common task of large companies. The main question is: how many time this philosophy can last? To achieve low prices, its needed to get bad quality products, people earning very low salaries, and many other collateral factors with effects in long time terms (like ambient care policies)...
Chinese friends, my comments aren’t in the bad sense, but what Hi can see thought the media is that Chinese people are some kind of slave, with a heavy g.overnment, and all this politics of low salaries -> low cost products don’t guides you to a better life….
NeuralC |
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