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jordan76



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Post09 Dec 2004 3:02   low pass filter configuration in PLL?

Hi

From books I saw the following low pass filter configuration (A) in PLL:
IN----R--------OUT IN-----R--------OUT
| |
C R
| |
R C
| |
GND GND

(A) (B)

What is the difference between (A) and (B)? Any comments/hints?
Thanks in advance!

regards,
jordan76
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Fom



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Post09 Dec 2004 3:29   Re: low pass filter configuration in PLL?

I looked at your post 5 minutes trying understand that. But I couldn't.
Sorry.
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huanchou



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Post09 Dec 2004 7:00   Re: low pass filter configuration in PLL?

If you use the mos cap. you should let the cap(NMOS CAP) under the resistor then tie to ground.
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jordan76



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Post10 Dec 2004 3:08   Re: low pass filter configuration in PLL?

Really sorry for the confusion due to the format problem!
Actually it is like the following(the arrow > only for format purpose):

IN----R1-------OUT
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> C
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> R2
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>GND

(A)

IN----R1-------OUT
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>R2
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> C
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>GND

(B)

where IN is the output from the frequency phase detector, OUT is the low pass filter output.
What is the difference between (A) and (B)? Any comments/hints?

regards,
jordan76
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flatulent



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Post10 Dec 2004 3:11   Re: low pass filter configuration in PLL?

The main difference is the parasitic capacitance from each node to ground and their affect on the performance. If this is inside an IC these capacitances can be very large. In discrete designs they are small.
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jordan76



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Post10 Dec 2004 3:32   Re: low pass filter configuration in PLL?

Hi flatulent,

Thanks for your reply!

It is inside the IC. From the perspective of transfer function, both configurations are the same. What is the effect of the different configuration on performance?
Which is preferred in practical circuit?

regards,
jordan76
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